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Title: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 06, 2016, 01:44:51 pm
Feel free to talk any way you like in this thread here.
Think of it as a "main thread" similar to the one on BCT.

Any news/updates that I post in the main thread on BCT, I will also post in that main thread here.

When a discussion needs to be discussed in more detail we can create a thread in one of the subforums.

Alright then.  :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 06, 2016, 03:18:50 pm
Feel free to talk any way you like in this thread here.
Think of it as a "main thread" similar to the one on BCT.

Any news/updates that I post in the main thread on BCT, I will also post in that main thread here.

When a discussion needs to be discussed in more detail we can create a thread in one of the subforums.

Alright then.  :)

First! Hell yea. Thanks Georgem!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 06, 2016, 03:22:34 pm
Minerpage you out there??
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dcascio on September 06, 2016, 03:29:15 pm
Can you post the .bat file you are running the sgminer with. Also what exactly is your GPU? I'm guessing that you didn't set the .conf file and rpc settings.

Basically, in your spreadcoin.conf (should be located in C:\Users\YOURUSERNAMEHERE\AppData\Roaming\ - if there is none, simply create a .txt document, call it spreadcoin and change the extension to .conf) file you need to paste this:

Code:
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=x
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=41677
port=41678
daemon=1
server=1

Than your sgminer should look like this:

Code:
sgminer -o "http://127.0.0.1:41677" -u user -p x --thread-concurrency 8192 --lookup-gap 2 --worksize 64 -g 2 -I 11

Last thing, create a shortcut of spreadcoin.exe (wallet) and add -server to the location of spreadcoin. Launch with shortcut so we make sure your wallet starts on server mode.

Use this miner btw, some old versions doesn't support spreadalgo.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/3911-new-spreadcoin-sgminer-fork-with-higher-performance-for-amd-miners/

I was given these instructions to setup mining but it is not working. I am running an AMD Radeon 6970. I keep getting an error saying no GPUs useable cannot mine. My spreadcoin.conf and sgminer.bat files are setup exactly like this.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dcascio on September 06, 2016, 03:38:56 pm
Also @georgem I know a Dev at EmpoEX exchange. He'd probably add SPR if I asked him to.  Do you think any of the trade volume would go there if they added it?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on September 06, 2016, 04:07:50 pm
Minerpage you out there??

Greetings... this is a much better place to live than the BCT troll jungle... let's rebuild our community here with only real people, ready to move mountains (and Service Nodes) ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on September 06, 2016, 04:09:51 pm
Feel free to talk any way you like in this thread here.
Think of it as a "main thread" similar to the one on BCT.
Alright then.  :)
First! Hell yea. Thanks Georgem!
Great idea, looking forward to many updates, even minimal progression is welcome... there is a lot of support here for Georgem's development effort, let's build on it and disrupt the marketplace!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 06, 2016, 04:36:35 pm
Also @georgem I know a Dev at EmpoEX exchange. He'd probably add SPR if I asked him to.  Do you think any of the trade volume would go there if they added it?

Hey, you can "recommend" SPR anyway you like. But I can't promise you that it will have any desired effect.

I guess the more people get interested the more the message is spread. That's for sure.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 06, 2016, 04:36:54 pm
Stay tuned guys. Large update coming soon.  :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 06, 2016, 05:16:30 pm
Minerpage you out there??

Greetings... this is a much better place to live than the BCT troll jungle... let's rebuild our community here with only real people, ready to move mountains (and Service Nodes) ;)

Nice!

It will be great to move a lot of the real community over here. BCT only really serves the purpose of garnering SPR attention. Once things take off, this thread will be far better IMO.  ;D

Glad to see you're still around!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 06, 2016, 05:18:01 pm
Stay tuned guys. Large update coming soon.  :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dcascio on September 06, 2016, 05:39:03 pm
So i completely discarded and uninstalled everything from my cpu including my GPU drivers. I am running an AMD Radeon 6970. Where would you start with the setup process? Is there a certain driver or catalyst version I should install? What is the purpose for installing the AMD SDK?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 06, 2016, 05:47:12 pm
So i completely discarded and uninstalled everything from my cpu including my GPU drivers. I am running an AMD Radeon 6970. Where would you start with the setup process? Is there a certain driver or catalyst version I should install? What is the purpose for installing the AMD SDK?

I can't help much with this. But I would crosspost in bitcointalk if I were you - there seem to be a larger number of miners there who may be able to help. Posting in both won't hurt.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on September 06, 2016, 09:40:48 pm
Stay tuned guys. Large update coming soon.  :)

I sure like the sound of that!  ;D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dcascio on September 07, 2016, 03:23:34 am
So i completely discarded and uninstalled everything from my cpu including my GPU drivers. I am running an AMD Radeon 6970. Where would you start with the setup process? Is there a certain driver or catalyst version I should install? What is the purpose for installing the AMD SDK?

I can't help much with this. But I would crosspost in bitcointalk if I were you - there seem to be a larger number of miners there who may be able to help. Posting in both won't hurt.

I posted in there as well but they all seem too interested in sorting out the trolls lol. I just want to mine. I'm thinking the drivers I had installed weren't compatable with the miner.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 07, 2016, 02:43:07 pm
Stay tuned guys. Large update coming soon.  :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Looking forward to it!

rhino, did you just make another donation?  :o
I only quickly read through the main thread...

Thank you very much! :)

I'll soon drown the main thread in an avalanche of posts.  ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 07, 2016, 02:46:38 pm
Also.... 800 MH/s!

I love you miners so much!
Thanks for donating your energy.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 07, 2016, 04:00:49 pm
Stay tuned guys. Large update coming soon.  :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Looking forward to it!

rhino, did you just make another donation?  :o
I only quickly read through the main thread...

Thank you very much! :)

I'll soon drown the main thread in an avalanche of posts.  ;)

Aye, that was me. I had a bunch of singles and figured you could put them to good use  :P

An avalanche of posts (updates?) sounds good to me   8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dcascio on September 07, 2016, 05:28:28 pm
So I am now officially mining. I loaded the 14.9 version of the AMD catalyst and re-setup my mining .bat and .conf files and bam it took off. So is 1.05 MH/s decent? This is my first time mining anything.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 07, 2016, 10:03:58 pm
So I am now officially mining. I loaded the 14.9 version of the AMD catalyst and re-setup my mining .bat and .conf files and bam it took off. So is 1.05 MH/s decent? This is my first time mining anything.

Congrats! I think you'll get a few blocks. Best of luck & welcome to a really
cool project   ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on September 07, 2016, 10:18:08 pm
So I am now officially mining. I loaded the 14.9 version of the AMD catalyst and re-setup my mining .bat and .conf files and bam it took off. So is 1.05 MH/s decent? This is my first time mining anything.

Congrats! I think you'll get a few blocks. Best of luck & welcome to a really
cool project   ;)
Cool, keep it running all the time... sometimes you'll get a few blocks, sometimes it will take a while but nethash goes up and down so stay connected and you'll get SPR ;D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dcascio on September 08, 2016, 12:39:24 am
Thanks fellas. The only issue I'm having is the miner freezes between 1-3 hours consistently. It's setup in my office so it's staying on 24/7. I just need it to work 24/7 lol.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on September 08, 2016, 01:01:26 am
It appears - BTC Talk is having some DDoS issues! again. 
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dcascio on September 08, 2016, 01:43:51 am
dumb question: Do I need to "setgenerate true" in the wallet before I can mine or is that just for cpu mining? 
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 08, 2016, 02:37:41 pm
It appears - BTC Talk is having some DDoS issues! again.

They seem to be having quite a few issues with that. Shouldn't have any DDOS attacks happen here  :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 12, 2016, 09:03:42 pm
Hey everybody, just dropping by to say hi and that everything goes well. Hope everybody is having a good time?

For all you guys who donated to me, I am preparing preview versions (closed source) that I will send to you, so you can have a first hand impression about certain wallet functionalities and give me your feedback.

I will contact each of you about this very soon.

Lots of interesting stuff happening.  8)
Just hang in there a little longer, I wish I had 4 hands and 2 brains, lol  :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on September 13, 2016, 12:27:34 pm
Hey everybody, just dropping by to say hi and that everything goes well. Hope everybody is having a good time?

For all you guys who donated to me, I am preparing preview versions (closed source) that I will send to you, so you can have a first hand impression about certain wallet functionalities and give me your feedback.

I will contact each of you about this very soon.

Lots of interesting stuff happening.  8)
Just hang in there a little longer, I wish I had 4 hands and 2 brains, lol  :)

Excited & eagerly awaiting!  :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 13, 2016, 07:29:53 pm
Hey everybody, just dropping by to say hi and that everything goes well. Hope everybody is having a good time?

For all you guys who donated to me, I am preparing preview versions (closed source) that I will send to you, so you can have a first hand impression about certain wallet functionalities and give me your feedback.

I will contact each of you about this very soon.

Lots of interesting stuff happening.  8)
Just hang in there a little longer, I wish I had 4 hands and 2 brains, lol  :)

Sounds awesome! Thanks Georgem!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 13, 2016, 08:08:57 pm
Just hang in there a little longer, I wish I had 4 hands and 2 brains, lol  :)

Sounds like we need to develop our very own cloning operations! lol
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 20, 2016, 05:18:34 pm
Just dropping some small knowledge, ...

The Spreadwallet will come with 2FA, but it will only support hardware 2FA solutions:

(http://i.imgur.com/yhdPI89.jpg)

So this means, either a TREZOR, or any encryptable USB drive, like the 2 examples that you see in the pic (each costing around 25$).

No, I don't plan on supporting any third party centralized 2FA solution (like google, etc)... those don't have any place in a decentralized wallet.

Stay tuned for more news...
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 20, 2016, 05:31:11 pm
Just dropping some small knowledge, ...

The Spreadwallet will come with 2FA, but it will only support hardware 2FA solutions:

(http://i.imgur.com/yhdPI89.jpg)

So this means, either a TREZOR, or any encryptable USB drive, like the 2 examples that you see in the pic (each costing around 25$).

No, I don't plan on supporting any third party centralized 2FA solution (like google, etc)... those don't have any place in a decentralized wallet.

Stay tuned for more news...

I'm really glad you are empowering the community to keep their coins and investment secure. Thanks for looking out for us! :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 20, 2016, 06:09:29 pm
I'm really glad you are empowering the community to keep their coins and investment secure. Thanks for looking out for us! :D

I only have one boss: the principles of decentralization.

It's incredibly easy to always make the right decision if you follow good principles.

It's that simple.  8)

Thanks for your kind words.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on September 20, 2016, 08:24:56 pm
No, I don't plan on supporting any third party centralized 2FA solution (like google, etc)... those don't have any place in a decentralized wallet.

Super happy about that, Google has no place in this "decentralized" world  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on September 20, 2016, 08:26:56 pm
No, I don't plan on supporting any third party centralized 2FA solution (like google, etc)... those don't have any place in a decentralized wallet.

Super happy about that, Google has no place in this "decentralized" world... couldn't have said it any better  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 20, 2016, 10:04:33 pm
In the future, when running service nodes, how are private keys protected? Are collateral amounts safe from attack? Or at least highly unlikely to be hacked into?

I'm unfamiliar with how DASH has their collateral amounts stored. I would think if the keys have to be stored on the VPS, they would likely be less safe. In that instance is there any sort of additional protection measures that can be taken? Are service providers or customers liable for hacks?


Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 20, 2016, 10:56:12 pm
In the future, when running service nodes, how are private keys protected? Are collateral amounts safe from attack? Or at least highly unlikely to be hacked into?

I'm unfamiliar with how DASH has their collateral amounts stored. I would think if the keys have to be stored on the VPS, they would likely be less safe. In that instance is there any sort of additional protection measures that can be taken? Are service providers or customers liable for hacks?

Private keys are only ever used to sign data (create signatures), or to create public keys.
Those signatures (in combination with public keys) are then used to authenticate stuff.

It should never be necessary to keep a privatekey on a server, that would be a horribly bad security design.

I'm not 100% familiar with DASH either, but I will take a closer look at it some time in the future as part of the altcoin taxonomy project.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 20, 2016, 11:15:30 pm
In the future, when running service nodes, how are private keys protected? Are collateral amounts safe from attack? Or at least highly unlikely to be hacked into?

I'm unfamiliar with how DASH has their collateral amounts stored. I would think if the keys have to be stored on the VPS, they would likely be less safe. In that instance is there any sort of additional protection measures that can be taken? Are service providers or customers liable for hacks?

Private keys are only ever used to sign data (create signatures), or to create public keys.
Those signatures (in combination with public keys) are then used to authenticate stuff.

It should never be necessary to keep a privatekey on a server, that would be a horribly bad security design.

I'm not 100% familiar with DASH either, but I will take a closer look at it some time in the future as part of the altcoin taxonomy project.

I just did a really quick search and it looks like they are going to make it so you can store collateral in Trezor wallets... or at least it was in development a few months ago.

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/can-trezor-be-used-to-store-the-collateral-for-masternode.8402/
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 21, 2016, 04:32:41 pm
And this tutorial gives instruction on how to run masternodes while the wallet is offline.

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/plugins/servlet/mobile?contentId=1867820#content/view/1867820

In short, I guess my worries that running SNs in the future would open one up to more risks were mostly unfounded :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: cptfisher on September 22, 2016, 08:03:40 pm
Greetings everybody following you here as well as in btctalk. im interested in this masternode project and i have started to bring some hashrate to the network. so found found several blocks (around 200 NOM NOM NOM) few min ago i had the great idea to encrypt my wallet... i cant mine anymore.. i unlocked it with command walletpassphrase for 1000 days but is there a way to unlockit removing the crypting ? thx for the answer !
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 22, 2016, 08:16:53 pm
Greetings everybody following you here as well as in btctalk. im interested in this masternode project and i have started to bring some hashrate to the network. so found found several blocks (around 200 NOM NOM NOM) few min ago i had the great idea to encrypt my wallet... i cant mine anymore.. i unlocked it with command walletpassphrase for 1000 days but is there a way to unlockit removing the crypting ? thx for the answer !

Welcome here.

Once you lock your wallet for the first time, it will always ask you for the walletpassphrase.
There is no "unlock forever" function.

In fact, not many people know that there are 3 states a typical crypto wallet (berkely db style) can have:

1) The initial unencrypted state of the wallet (like a "virgin" so to speak)
2) Once you encrypt the wallet for the first time, the format of the wallet changes forever. It is now password "enabled".
3) You can decide to decrypt the password encrypted wallet for a finite amount of time. But this is not the same as 1). The format of the wallet is now a different one.

Once you initiated the encryption you can only ever switch between 2) and 3), but never return back to 1) ever.

What you would need to do is decrypt the wallet and dump all the private keys and move them to a new "virgin" wallet.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: cptfisher on September 23, 2016, 01:51:46 am
ok i think that i will keep it encrypted and unlock it every time is needed
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 23, 2016, 04:46:44 pm
A user named sugarfly has mentioned something important in the BCT thread that I want to paste here too:


The bandwidth traffic should directly relate to the amount of simultaneous connections your node has.
People who run a node on a server with >100 connections will use a lot of bandwidth.


Good point.

I've seen a few people report the rather problematic bandwidth usage of full nodes, and while they post all kinds of graphs and reports,
they always ommit to tell you how many connections the node has open on average.

Of course, when your full node has 150 connections, you will have to "pay the price for this" so to speak.

Also, from a decentralization standpoint, it is much better (and cheaper) to have 10000 guys run a raspberry node than a full server.

Wait... let me visualize this....
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 23, 2016, 04:47:02 pm
Let's visualize a "sea of raspberry pi nodes" (and desktop nodes run @ home) that just keep a minimum amount of connections to a few random nodes:

(http://i.imgur.com/t5NIRlp.png)

Ofcourse spatial proximity doesn't make sense in this visualization, but you get the idea, this is what beautiful decentralization looks like.

...

And here we have the same situation, but with 2 full nodes that open as many connections as possible:

(http://i.imgur.com/sJu2s75.png)

That doesn't look very decentralized to me.  ;D

Not only is this much more centralized, but those 2 nodes also occupy way too many open ports of the smaller nodes.

Now, I do understand that a bitcoin MINER wants his new found block to be propagated to the rest of the network as fast as possible, this is a very good reason to run a node with that many connections.

Payment processors probably want to know as much about the network as possible too. (especially if they allow for zero confirmation payments)

And then there are actors who want to snoop on your activities and privacy.  >:(

I think the way to fight this is with a large amount of tiny full nodes, and that's why I want to make the implementation of raspberry pi's as easy as possible.  8)

I run my bitcoin node on a raspberry pi, ...

Awesome... you will love the new wallet.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 23, 2016, 04:48:30 pm
Pieter Wuille had a beautiful comment about this in this thread here:

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/8109/how-does-one-attain-1-000-connections-like-blockchain-info

(http://i.imgur.com/WRjdHtN.jpg)

Yep, many full node operators are way too "connection-happy" and then they complain about high bandwidth costs, LMAO!  ;D

It's another display of human greed and the negative unwanted effects this can have.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: cptfisher on September 23, 2016, 10:24:56 pm
any eta on the new features ?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on September 27, 2016, 04:14:47 am
Georgem, I was perusing some forums on reddit and was specifically looking for ways that one could prove that one is running a full node. It looks like there aren't any unique identifiers that enable the network to recognize a fake node from a real node.

I know PoBN will likely be something you begin working on after all of the other loads of work you have. But do you have any initial thoughts on how you will be going about solving that problem? Will the implementation of the block explorer directly tie into this? Is this all information you are keeping in a secret bunker somewhere?  :o

For instance I know you said this in the road map:

"Proving that a full bitcoin node is exclusively installed and used by a single servicenode requires a
solution similar in complexity and about as groundbreaking as solving the double-spend problem in bitcoin.
Solving PoBN will likely allow the creation of a decentralized exchange and (should a valid big data methodology be found) a big data market.
"

I also know your time is precious (far better spent coding than talking to us laymen in the forums lol), so don't worry about a long winded response if you think the explanation will be better shared down the road.  :P
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on November 18, 2016, 04:46:16 am
Thanks minerpage for the insights!  :o

I'm hoping some other people will pioneer some of those services!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 01:47:28 am
I do have a small video ready (without commentary), demonstrating one aspect of the upcoming spreadwallet.

What happens in the video:
The spreadwallet will connect with 5 altcoins simultaneously (SPR, BTC, LTC, PPC and EMC) through "SPV connections".
(TCPSockets that connect with full nodes of these coins and ask for headers through the getheaders message)

As the blocks are downloaded and become available within the wallet I visualize them in real time.

Enjoy!

(click picture to open vimeo)

(http://i.imgur.com/3ha8XVF.png) (https://vimeo.com/194756820)

Will have more updates ready soon.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 08, 2016, 03:50:23 am
I do have a small video ready (without commentary), demonstrating one aspect of the upcoming spreadwallet.

What happens in the video:
The spreadwallet will connect with 5 altcoins simultaneously (SPR, BTC, LTC, PPC and EMC) through "SPV connections".
(TCPSockets that connect with full nodes of these coins and ask for headers through the getheaders message)

As the blocks are downloaded and become available within the wallet I visualize them in real time.

Enjoy!

(click picture to open vimeo)

(http://i.imgur.com/3ha8XVF.png) (https://vimeo.com/194756820)

Will have more updates ready soon.

It's pretty cool that we will be able to sync multiple chains at once! Might cause a bit of a strain on the CPU though, no?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 04:01:46 am
It's pretty cool that we will be able to sync multiple chains at once! Might cause a bit of a strain on the CPU though, no?

Depends on many things.
How fast will the other peers give you the data,
and is it just headers or full blocks, etc.

Headers are easy.

It's not CPU intense to have many multiple connections to peers (e.g. I have literally 1000s of connections open in qBittorrent (which is also written in c++/Qt)).
The problem is when there is lots of throughput coupled with data consistency checking on these channels, then your CPU has to do the work.

Currently I create a separate thread for every tcpsocket connection, which is not wise, but I was in a hurry.
I will switch it to a tcpserver design, which will allow for 1000s of open peer connections. (at your own peril, lol)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 11:01:20 am
hm, BTC is down for me at the moment.
Reminds me why it's good to have your own forum.  8)

So, I wanted to say something about the "patronage" funding I brought up earlier.
It should be the best way to incentivize a regular steady financial support for the developers of spreadcoin (currently only me), without the need to do the scammy things many other devs/communities have been doing in the altcoin sphere. (ICO, instamine, taxing miners, and other crap etc...)

here is an idea how "patronage" could look like:

1) 20$ (or equivalent in crypto) and you will receive regular closed source preview versions to test on your computer. (I deploy for win, mac and linux simultaneously)
I want to keep this cheap so that many people will be capable to post feedback/screenshots/videos about their testing.
First goal will be to release a new test-version every week.

2) 100$. All of the above and: I will permantly put your Name/Pseudonym in the "About" section (and READMEs, etc) of the wallet as supporter. Highest donators listed first.

3) 200$. All of the above and: I will favor your input regarding wallet-features more (within reason), but we will have to see how we can sync your desires with everybody else's. No extravaganza.

3) 500$. All of the above and: It doesn't matter if your wishes are extravangant anymore (within reason), I will basically maintain a "fork" of the wallet to satisfy your own special "kink".  8)

4) 1000$. All of the above and: You will receive the preview-versions with sourcecode. I maintain full ownership of the code, until the day we release a first public beta version. From then on the license will be fully free and open source like bitcoin. (MIT license)

5) XXX$ I will invent new levels as we progress.

(All donations will be cummulative, meaning I will keep track about all the donations you make and sum them up. Those donations are not monthly or anything. Just you donating more and more will add to your pile and release new benefits. )

BTW, what I describe here is for the spreadwallet only.
As the other project (the spreadminer) progresses I will start a similar separate "patronage" scheme for it too. (More about it later this month)

This way people will be able to donate towards whatever project they find more "important" / "pressing" at the moment.

What do you say, guys?

If you ever wanted to create the wallet you always dreamed about.... here's the opportunity to do so!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 11:15:38 am
So, as this currently stands, and if I look at the last 3-4 months, I received donations from 4 people that went towards the development of the spreadwallet.

pokeytex, sugarfly, rhinomonkey and just2laff all donated 20$ or more worth of cryptocurrency since the day I announced the spreadwallet

This means that all of them will recieve a preview version starting next week (and all the following weeks ofcourse. Once you unlock a level you don't ever lose the benefits).

The "incredibles" rhinomonkey and just2laff have both donated about 300 $ each (so they have unlocked level 3 right now),
and the greatest thing is that they have done that in a pretty regular fashion (each giving about 100$ during september, october, november).
Your help is much appreciated and has really taken a little bit of the financial burden off my shoulders.

You guys make me believe that this could actually work and be of benefit to everybody.

Let's do this!  :)

Everybody else, if you want to join the club, you are free to do so!

SPR: ShutUpHxbuLdy22g9NE4afviUr2Cnqd68H
BTC: 1JdkuDCSTinANQAJjtmZYsfoZdtzR6NhYk

If you want to donate in any other cryptocurrency, just ask and I will create an address for you.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 11:29:27 am
BTW, this is all voluntary and you don't need to participate in this patronage scheme if you don't want.

Or you can wait a few days/weeks see where this is going and decide later that you want to participate.

This much is certain: one day, hopefully in just a few months, a well-tested spreadwallet will be publicly released with sourcecode, for free.

So you are free to just sit on your pile of worthless cryptocurrencies and watch while we work.  :o

I'm kidding, I'm kidding...
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on December 08, 2016, 01:13:31 pm
I agree with this 150% - please find another donation below for your efforts.

Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 9 nodes
Date: 12/8/2016 08:11
To: Georgem ShutUpHxbuLdy22g9NE4afviUr2Cnqd68H
Debit: -3000.00 SPR
Transaction fee: -0.062 SPR
Net amount: -3000.062 SPR
Transaction ID: 7afb2f70f1865d6fdcdc42d9d1a77fc6a7980eb816ef7d3fa181627a6e7d65f5

Thank you Georgem - without your efforts there would not be a spreadcoin to talk about!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 03:41:00 pm
I agree with this 150% - please find another donation below for your efforts.

Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 9 nodes
Date: 12/8/2016 08:11
To: Georgem ShutUpHxbuLdy22g9NE4afviUr2Cnqd68H
Debit: -3000.00 SPR
Transaction fee: -0.062 SPR
Net amount: -3000.062 SPR
Transaction ID: 7afb2f70f1865d6fdcdc42d9d1a77fc6a7980eb816ef7d3fa181627a6e7d65f5

Thank you Georgem - without your efforts there would not be a spreadcoin to talk about!

The ancient alliance between hedgehogs and hamsters has been further reinforced!

(http://i.imgur.com/ZpLZRAq.jpg)

Much appreciated!

(I will count this donation as 70$)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 04:14:21 pm
BTW @just2laff, rhinomonkey, pokeytex and sugarfly

Please tell me your favorite altcoins (next to SPR and BTC ofcourse) that you want to see listed in the spreadwallet rightaway.

Dissecting an altcoin (it's specifics, network messages, behaviour etc) as part of "altcoin taxonomy" takes up some time, and is an ongoing process, and I don't want to waste it on altcoins that none of my patrons find useful right now!

Currently I am hard-coding "altcoin-genetics" like this:

Code: [Select]
QMap<QString, CoinDataSet> COIN::initMap(){
    QMap<QString, CoinDataSet> map;

    map.insert("SPR", {"Spreadcoin",1,"SpreadX11",41678,"4F3C5CBB",70019,3,
"010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000534CBD8798052A39AD944834D3EBE62EDCADDB7E30F76DFC0EC50E77490C9D126051D75300000000FFFF0F1E0000000000000000",
                       {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME64-TARGET-HEIGHT-NONCE"},
                        {43001,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME64-TARGET-HEIGHT-NONCE-HASHWHOLE-MINERSIG"}},
                       "00000000000000000000000000000000"});

    map.insert("BTC", {"Bitcoin",10,"SHA-256",8333,"F9BEB4D9",70012,1,
                       "0100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000003BA3EDFD7A7B12B27AC72C3E67768F617FC81BC3888A51323A9FB8AA4B1E5E4A29AB5F49FFFF001D1DAC2B7C",
                       {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE"}},
                       "00000000000000000000000000000000"});

    map.insert("LTC", {"Litecoin",2.5,"Scrypt",9333,"FBC0B6DB",70003,1,
                       "010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000D9CED4ED1130F7B7FAAD9BE25323FFAFA33232A17C3EDF6CFD97BEE6BAFBDD97B9AA8E4EF0FF0F1ECD513F7C",
                       {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE"}},
                       "00000000000000000000000000000000"});

    map.insert("NMC", {"Namecoin",10,"SHA-256",8334,"F9BEB4FE",70012,1,
                       "0100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000DCBD3E6F061215BF3B3383C8CE2EC201BC65ACDE32595449AC86890BD2DC641C133AA4DFF7F001C92A11EA2",
                       {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE"},
                        {19200,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE-AUXPOW"}},
                       "00000000000000000000000000000000"});

    map.insert("DOGE", {"Dogecoin",1,"Scrypt",22556,"C0C0C0C0",70004,1,
                        "010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000696AD20E2DD4365C7459B4A4A5AF743D5E92C6DA3229E6532CD605F6533F2A5B24A6A152F0FF0F1E67860100",
                        {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE"},
                         {371337,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE-AUXPOW"}},
                        "00000000000000000000000000000000"});

    map.insert("PPC", {"Peercoin",10,"SHA-256",9901,"E6E8E9E5",60006,1,
                       "010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000C293592C05905698290C89EB6DDEF0CF8AA5A148C68C55AC7AD1B4FA858F2D3C7F5B2C50FFFF001DAB82E581",
                       {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE-UNKNOWN1"}},
                       "10000000000000000000000000000000"});

    map.insert("XPM", {"Primecoin",1,"PrimeNumbers",9911,"E4E7E5E7",70001,1,                       "020000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000FFC9050E834E51D2EB40ECDA5308714F55743D3C74AED01294BBFF1DB60EA3ACED4CD751000000067F01000006EE7F64B30D6C",
                       {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE-UNKNOWN1"}},
                       "00000000000000000000000000000000"});

    map.insert("EMC", {"Emercoin",10,"SHA-256",6661,"E6E8E9E5",60005,1,
                       "010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000E02E2649E8889A4C34759E347E82BF6BB938A2C71D2314CFD01657F932E0EED8C143A652FFFF001D326A5708",
                       {{0,"VERSION-PREVIOUS-MERKLE-TIME32-TARGET-NONCE-UNKNOWN1"}},
                       "10000000000000000000000000000000"});

    return map;

}

This data structure will get way more detailled and extensive in the future. Many parameters are still missing.
At some point this data will be placed outside the program as a configuration file (XML).
People will then have the possibility to add their own coins if they have specific ("complete") knowledge about its "internals".

But right now I need to give any altcoin the proper screening/dissection to be able to make it run within the spreadwallet.
It's literally like biological taxonomy.
Some coins are so related with each other that they only differ in one byte.
Others deviate quite a bit from each other...
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 04:18:14 pm
BTW, if someone wants to make an anonymous donation, just tell me.
I will ofcourse not always announce every donation loudly in public, lol.
Except if you want me to!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 05:07:45 pm
There are hardly ever many sell walls up since miners usually just dump on the market, so even tiny amounts of BTC push the price way up. Fun to watch  ;D

BTW will the bittrex delisting warning disappear by itself once we are out of the swamp?
How much volume are we missing exactly?

7 BTC volume required for 14 days....

We are probably close. I'd guess 6 BTC or something.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on December 08, 2016, 05:11:50 pm
"There are hardly ever many sell walls up since miners usually just dump on the market, so even tiny amounts of BTC push the price way up. Fun to watch"

SPR community used to be about HODL and work on increase value.

Not sure who the dumpers are but I've been trying to help the price go up and provide some volume in these past 2 days but don't see much support.

Guess for every action there's someone who feels there needs to be an opposite reaction. Whomever countered my efforts on Bittrex: go spend the money and gloat about your "windfall". I'll try again later when it's a little more mature.

Guess we need some more convincing to explain the value to some "investors" 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 05:24:20 pm
I can't guarantee it, but I'm going to put some extra hours in today/tonight to have yet another video ready by tomorrow. I hope.

I fucking love this community.  ;D

You guys deserve it!

With all the patron saints in my life now... work is fun!!!!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 08, 2016, 05:38:06 pm
"There are hardly ever many sell walls up since miners usually just dump on the market, so even tiny amounts of BTC push the price way up. Fun to watch"

SPR community used to be about HODL and work on increase value.

Not sure who the dumpers are but I've been trying to help the price go up and provide some volume in these past 2 days but don't see much support.

Guess for every action there's someone who feels there needs to be an opposite reaction. Whomever countered my efforts on Bittrex: go spend the money and gloat about your "windfall". I'll try again later when it's a little more mature.

Guess we need some more convincing to explain the value to some "investors" 8)

I will be helping out in a couple of weeks, unfortunately, that is quite possibly too late. I have a few other holdings worth a solid amount of BTC and am hoping to trade those and come back to SPR.

I have some very small amounts of SPR to sell but I really don't want to. This new Bittrex policy sort of forces trading or else.  :(
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 08, 2016, 05:39:41 pm
There are hardly ever many sell walls up since miners usually just dump on the market, so even tiny amounts of BTC push the price way up. Fun to watch  ;D

BTW will the bittrex delisting warning disappear by itself once we are out of the swamp?
How much volume are we missing exactly?

7 BTC volume required for 14 days....

We are probably close. I'd guess 6 BTC or something.

I'm not entirely sure. I think they would have to clear it after looking it over to make sure there wasn't any foul play or whatever... ::)

Still no word from them?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 05:50:01 pm
No word from them. Just the ticket receipt confirmation.

Hm... could it be that they have a strict policy regarding the identity of a developer (for good reasons),
and that they automatically assume that I am a fraud, since it was orginally someone else (mr. spread) who they still have in their system as "the" spreadcoin dev?

meh, don't think that this is plausible. I also used a spreadcoin.info email-address to contact them.

Anyway, I'm pumped now. It's on!
This party will not be over today!  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 08, 2016, 06:22:43 pm
No word from them. Just the ticket receipt confirmation.

Hm... could it be that they have a strict policy regarding the identity of a developer (for good reasons),
and that they automatically assume that I am a fraud, since it was orginally someone else (mr. spread) who they still have in their system as "the" spreadcoin dev?

meh, don't think that this is plausible. I also used a spreadcoin.info email-address to contact them.

Anyway, I'm pumped now. It's on!
This party will not be over today!  8)

Awesome to hear!

Also, in regards to thte whole dev thing. I think they were doing a verification process of coins / devs a while back. I don't know if they still have that. Might be something to look into. Building your relationship (if you are comfortable with that) with them might help them realize that the project is legitimate.

This is a bit about that: https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203692234--Draft-What-is-a-Verified-Market- (https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203692234--Draft-What-is-a-Verified-Market-)

Not sure if they are still doing this....
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 08, 2016, 06:54:27 pm
ok thanks.

Hm, mr. spread was pretty cryptic and anonymous, always using VPN etc...
I doubt he would have participated in such a verification process as described in the article you linked.
It sounds like KYC for devs, lol.  :o

Well, let's see where this goes.
I will have to deal with these things sooner or later.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 08, 2016, 06:59:03 pm
ok thanks.

Hm, mr. spread was pretty cryptic and anonymous, always using VPN etc...
I doubt he would have participated in such a verification process as described in the article you linked.
It sounds like KYC for devs, lol.  :o

Well, let's see where this goes.
I will have to deal with these things sooner or later.

Fortunately, you aren't developing anything that will be used "nefariously" so you are not likely to bear the brunt of any sort of government backlash as some other coins (SDC, VTR) might be. But, then again, I'm not even entirely sure if it would be worth informing them who you are. Was just an idea.  :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on December 09, 2016, 02:42:15 pm
From BCT rhinomonkey Today at 12:54:41 PM "Is syscoin in direct competition with SPR in terms of project goals"

I happen to follow SYS, their model is different than SPR but they did keep up with the BTC wallet versions.

In a nutshell: Their concept is innovative in a sense that they link the blockchain to an HTML shopping experience (online blockchain store) using multiple coins for payment (in the upcoming new wallet they announced sometime in Q1 2017). They include Aliasing, Messaging, Escrow, Certification and some more.

They're the coin that has Microsoft Azure acceptance although I haven't seen developments in that direction yet.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 09, 2016, 03:26:21 pm
From BCT rhinomonkey Today at 12:54:41 PM "Is syscoin in direct competition with SPR in terms of project goals"

I happen to follow SYS, their model is different than SPR but they did keep up with the BTC wallet versions.

In a nutshell: Their concept is innovative in a sense that they link the blockchain to an HTML shopping experience (online blockchain store) using multiple coins for payment (in the upcoming new wallet they announced sometime in Q1 2017). They include Aliasing, Messaging, Escrow, Certification and some more.

They're the coin that has Microsoft Azure acceptance although I haven't seen developments in that direction yet.

Oh cool, thank you for the clarification. My scope of knowledge on altcoins is generally small. I only keep up with 1-3 projects at a time. It gets to be too much to follow a bunch heavily.

I have heard about SYS. It sounds like maybe I should branch out - good thing about Spreadcoin is that eventually I won't even have to "branch out" because we will have a network that is intimate with a bunch of other coins. They will come to me :D

I suppose we wait till the end of the day to see if Bittrex slams the hammer down on us... they know how to keep people in suspense...  :o
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 09, 2016, 11:30:36 pm
weird, bittrex still keeps us guessing. lol

 :)

December 9th is now over where I live... how about you? Still a few hours to go?
Where is bittrex located again?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on December 10, 2016, 12:05:29 am
Where is bittrex located again?

Bittrex LLC
6077 S. Ft. Apache Rd
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89148

Still 7 hrs to go :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 10, 2016, 12:11:47 am
haha, las vegas.  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 10, 2016, 05:08:27 am
weird, bittrex still keeps us guessing. lol

 :)

December 9th is now over where I live... how about you? Still a few hours to go?
Where is bittrex located again?

Just became the 10th here!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 10, 2016, 12:58:04 pm
We are still broadcasting live from bittrex.fm radio station in las vegas.

(http://i.imgur.com/jyVUsBW.jpg)

AWESOME!

Thanks everybody for your contributions and efforts!

Party goes on!

(http://i.imgur.com/arG6BRw.jpg)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on December 10, 2016, 02:31:44 pm
Looks like we are in the clear on Bittrex!  No more threatening banner!  :o
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 10, 2016, 02:42:08 pm
Looks like we are in the clear on Bittrex!  No more threatening banner!  :o

Indeed, all is good for now.
It shouldn't be that hard to create 7 BTC volume spread over 14 days.
I will keep the updates regular, patrons will add to it, and the rest of the community will support us too!

It will work!

 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 11, 2016, 06:03:16 am
Looks like we are in the clear on Bittrex!  No more threatening banner!  :o

Indeed, all is good for now.
It shouldn't be that hard to create 7 BTC volume spread over 14 days.
I will keep the updates regular, patrons will add to it, and the rest of the community will support us too!

It will work!

 8)

I'm gunning to be your first patron on Patreon. Gotta kick things off there for you  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 11, 2016, 12:23:14 pm
Hey I finally received a message from Bittrex,

a guy named Bill wished me good luck with the project and everything,
and that we should watch our volume and not let it slip behind,
as they're planning to remove markets that are constantly getting the low volume warning.

Well then... it's good that we are NOT one of those markets.
We have been sailing without the warning for many months now,
and we have been getting such a warning maybe once a year.
But this will stop now.

New video coming up soon!

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 13, 2016, 04:16:53 am
Just came by to play with the animation features.

8)
Send
Nudes
8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: e1ghtSpace on December 14, 2016, 02:19:00 am
New video coming up soon!
Alright, looking forward to it man.
:)           8)           :-\           ::)           ???           :o           8)           ;D           :D           ;)           :)           8)         
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 14, 2016, 12:40:27 pm
New video coming up soon!
Alright, looking forward to it man.
:)           8)           :-\           ::)           ???           :o           8)           ;D           :D           ;)           :)           8)         

Hey, look who's back!  8)

In the new video I will demonstrate a few of the commands that you can type in the blockexplorer, etc..

I should finish it today, but those things are notoriously difficult to estimate.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on December 16, 2016, 03:35:04 pm
Can someone help transfer coins101 in here from bitcointalk? Or at least duplicate the postings in here also. I consider this forum the clean home of SPR, without terrorist sympathizers :)

I'm interested in contributing feedback to his whitepaper. 
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 16, 2016, 04:17:36 pm
Can someone help transfer coins101 in here from bitcointalk? Or at least duplicate the postings in here also. I consider this forum the clean home of SPR, without terrorist sympathizers :)

I'm interested in contributing feedback to his whitepaper.

Does he not have an account here yet?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on December 16, 2016, 04:22:47 pm
Can someone help transfer coins101 in here from bitcointalk? Or at least duplicate the postings in here also. I consider this forum the clean home of SPR, without terrorist sympathizers :)

I'm interested in contributing feedback to his whitepaper.

Does he not have an account here yet?

not as coins101, maybe another name but I don't know
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: rhinomonkey on December 17, 2016, 04:41:20 am
Sounds like he wants to start a new thread on Bitcointalk. He has an aversion to coming and being intimate with us on Spreadcointalk haha
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: Nikolaj on December 18, 2016, 06:32:12 pm
Hey I finally received a message from Bittrex,

a guy named Bill wished me good luck with the project and everything,
and that we should watch our volume and not let it slip behind,
as they're planning to remove markets that are constantly getting the low volume warning.

Well then... it's good that we are NOT one of those markets.
We have been sailing without the warning for many months now,
and we have been getting such a warning maybe once a year.
But this will stop now.

New video coming up soon!

Hi all guys ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 18, 2016, 10:07:06 pm
Hi all guys ;)

Welcome Nikolaj.

Sorry, don't have much time right now, working hard to release the next update.
Will answer your requests/PM soon, don't worry.

 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: Nikolaj on December 19, 2016, 06:09:32 am
Take your time, no hurry :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on December 31, 2016, 10:22:20 pm
Happy New 2017 everybody
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 01, 2017, 04:40:15 pm
Happy New Year To All! :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on January 03, 2017, 01:45:32 am
From Bitcointalk:
> georgem December 24, 2016, 07:38:31 PM
> I got some presents for you guys that you can unpack next week.

Presents? Next Week?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 03, 2017, 06:49:07 am
From Bitcointalk:
> georgem December 24, 2016, 07:38:31 PM
> I got some presents for you guys that you can unpack next week.

Presents? Next Week?

Any minute now.
I do have a 100% dayjob you know?
And beginning of year is always the busiest.

Stay tuned, everything promised will be delivered.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 07, 2017, 07:07:52 am
Pokeytex wrote an interesting PM, and I'm going to address it publicly here:

Quote
From: pokeytex
Hello Georgem - I just wanted to take a moment to say hi and possibly give my advice to you.  Take it or leave it as you may.  I like you and I think you are doing and going to do great work on SPR!  Not because I am invested but because I see the potential in the designs and ideas you put out.  I am with you the whole way and hope that you are able to make it all work out.  With that said, I would like to advise you on not giving any timelines.  People hold your word as gospel and frankly I have fallen into the category once in a while especially with the Christmas "present" comment a couple weeks ago.  My advice is to not disclose any time frame and post maybe what you are working on.  Under promise and over deliver.  I know you have a day job and I am sure your personal life is as hectic as mine with family and all but the natives are getting restless and the negativity on the forum is starting to grow like a cancer.  If you have anything to satiate the appetites temporarily please post it.  From there - no more deadlines!  :o - Be well - Pokeytex

Thanks for your kind words.

Yes, you are right.  8)

But even if I didn't give a deadline, someone is always going to complain about something.
IMHO my wrong deadline estimations are the least of SPR's problems (and they will go away over time).

It's this whole "faux urgency" as someone else stated, that goes on in certain parts of the community.
That's why a certain brand of people seems a little bit restless right now!
My wrong deadlines don't correlate with the "faux urgency" in their head, and that is what causes them "cognitive dissonance" and ultimately makes them snap!

We have a tiny group of people who own an insane amount of SPR (probably 5 Million in the hands of no more than 10 people),
and they can't wait to do "something" with it, they don't give a fuck about decentralization etc.
They want that quick masternode-wealth-redistribution-scam, do some scammy PR, move the price 20x-30x, dump their coins and be done with it.

I have more long term goals, believe me.  8)

It is true that I keep planning deadlines as if I was already working pretty much 100% on this project, when the reality during the last 12 months has been on average 0-10%.
I probably do this unconsciously (out of gleeful anticipation), but then my dayjob always catches up on me with a loud wake-up call.
In fact, that is the reason why I am working on this patronage scheme, so that there is a possibility of gradually increasing the amount of time I can invest every month.

But your advice is good, and I will take it.

And BTW, I don't mind that some people are starting to act "cancerous" on BCT, they have always been doing that, and if anything I always welcome it when someone shows me their true colors.
It helps me adapt, adjust my wrong expectations and choose more fitting solutions to counteract this. (I am working on a pretty thorough solution here...  8))

Anyway, thanks for your patience,
all I can say is, I will be here, 2017, 2018, 2019... etc.
 8)

Very interesting stuff coming,
and the first priority should be to have more regular updates, indeed.

P.S.: I hope you don't mind that I post your PM publicly, but in the interest of transparency from now on I will be posting publicly any PM I receive to address them accordingly.
It should help everybody (and especially newcomers) to figure out what is going on behind the scenes.
You won't believe the PMs I am getting, lmao.
Yours is one of the good ones.  ;D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on January 07, 2017, 04:36:24 pm
We have a tiny group of people who own an insane amount of SPR (probably 5 Million in the hands of no more than 10 people),
and they can't wait to do "something" with it, they don't give a fuck about decentralization etc.
They want that quick masternode-wealth-redistribution-scam, do some scammy PR, move the price 20x-30x, dump their coins and be done with it.

What a sad and confusing statement (if I read it the way it's written).

I disagree and honestly, most of those people have saved SPR from obscurity, kept it listed on at least one exchange. Some of us kept buying because nobody else did. And I doubt your statement about 10 people owning 5M SPR.

Most of those people have put a lot on the line *financially* (with their hard earned money) to keep SPR afloat and to dismiss that effort in a PnD accusation is beneath you. I think I know most of the people you are dismissing in that post and the truth is the opposite: we all want this to succeed. We are eager for it to succeed, for no other reasons than to see it grow.

The urgency is not as much to make money (some of it would float back to you and cancel the need of a day job) but some of us feel the urgency because it is a fast moving landscape and innovations happen at the speed of light. Some anxiety exists because by the time something is on the market, it is too late.

If you stand by those few lines you wrote, you might be projecting scam methods used in the alt market on your own coin. That's what makes me most sad of all. You really have a lot of support that doesn't get appreciated.

On the other hand, glad you confirmed you're only able to work between 0%-10%, something I felt but couldn't confirm. That is fine in itself, now we can all adjust expectations.

Please change your negative view of your own support system. And if someone dumps, who cares, others will gladly pick up the extra SPR available on the market.

As soon as you have the donation system ready you shouldn't have to depend on a day job as much. I hope you change your mind about that statement and use your supporters to move SPR ahead.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 07, 2017, 05:07:20 pm
Pokeytex wrote an interesting PM, and I'm going to address it publicly here:

Quote
From: pokeytex
Hello Georgem - I just wanted to take a moment to say hi and possibly give my advice to you.  Take it or leave it as you may.  I like you and I think you are doing and going to do great work on SPR!  Not because I am invested but because I see the potential in the designs and ideas you put out.  I am with you the whole way and hope that you are able to make it all work out.  With that said, I would like to advise you on not giving any timelines.  People hold your word as gospel and frankly I have fallen into the category once in a while especially with the Christmas "present" comment a couple weeks ago.  My advice is to not disclose any time frame and post maybe what you are working on.  Under promise and over deliver.  I know you have a day job and I am sure your personal life is as hectic as mine with family and all but the natives are getting restless and the negativity on the forum is starting to grow like a cancer.  If you have anything to satiate the appetites temporarily please post it.  From there - no more deadlines!  :o - Be well - Pokeytex

Thanks for your kind words.

Yes, you are right.  8)

But even if I didn't give a deadline, someone is always going to complain about something.
IMHO my wrong deadline estimations are the least of SPR's problems (and they will go away over time).

It's this whole "faux urgency" as someone else stated, that goes on in certain parts of the community.
That's why a certain brand of people seems a little bit restless right now!
My wrong deadlines don't correlate with the "faux urgency" in their head, and that is what causes them "cognitive dissonance" and ultimately makes them snap!

We have a tiny group of people who own an insane amount of SPR (probably 5 Million in the hands of no more than 10 people),
and they can't wait to do "something" with it, they don't give a fuck about decentralization etc.
They want that quick masternode-wealth-redistribution-scam, do some scammy PR, move the price 20x-30x, dump their coins and be done with it.

I have more long term goals, believe me.  8)

It is true that I keep planning deadlines as if I was already working pretty much 100% on this project, when the reality during the last 12 months has been on average 0-10%.
I probably do this unconsciously (out of gleeful anticipation), but then my dayjob always catches up on me with a loud wake-up call.
In fact, that is the reason why I am working on this patronage scheme, so that there is a possibility of gradually increasing the amount of time I can invest every month.

But your advice is good, and I will take it.

And BTW, I don't mind that some people are starting to act "cancerous" on BCT, they have always been doing that, and if anything I always welcome it when someone shows me their true colors.
It helps me adapt, adjust my wrong expectations and choose more fitting solutions to counteract this. (I am working on a pretty thorough solution here...  8))

Anyway, thanks for your patience,
all I can say is, I will be here, 2017, 2018, 2019... etc.
 8)

Very interesting stuff coming,
and the first priority should be to have more regular updates, indeed.

P.S.: I hope you don't mind that I post your PM publicly, but in the interest of transparency from now on I will be posting publicly any PM I receive to address them accordingly.
It should help everybody (and especially newcomers) to figure out what is going on behind the scenes.
You won't believe the PMs I am getting, lmao.
Yours is one of the good ones.  ;D

@Georgem - I don't mind that you quote my PM.  I have nothing to hide.  I think your responses will help myself and others understand your position better.  Remember we are all here because of your efforts.  I don't know anything about coding so I cannot not help like others want to but I can tell you after losing all of my coins last January (to a hacker) SPR is one of only (5) coins I am in  now.  I have mined all of my SPR and am by no means SPR rich! Yet! ;) I believe in SPR and what the mechanics will be when all comes to fruition.  This includes the decentralization part of it.  Your last project update with the various coins in the same wallet really stoked me.  I will continue to donate to you when I can afford to so it helps you with your efforts on development.    Lastly, don't get frustrated with the community.  I know it is hard sometimes.  Please understand we are all foaming at the mouth to see what you create. ;D  We are a proud community.  Just take a deep breath and put one foot in front of the other when dealing with us.  We can be impatient sometimes.  ** Disclaimer: I know I shouldn't use "WE" because I sound like I speak for the community.  Believe me I have no delusions that I represent the community! **  :P - Peace out - Pokeytex
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 07, 2017, 06:34:22 pm
What a sad and confusing statement (if I read it the way it's written).

Minerpage, you deserve a detailed answer.
So let me clarify it for you, so you don't have to put words in my mouth.

In short:

I have no problem with people buying lots of SPR, that is a natural early centralization that happens with all coins, even bitcoin.
Such a centralization is temporary and is dealt with later, or becomes irrelevant.
Early investors should make a profit (through the mere price increase of a coin that "makes it"), and one of my goals is to make it worthwhile for miners and investors in the long term.
Absolutely. I want to reward loyalty.

What I have a giant problem with is people who own large portions of SPR and now want to use this centralization to push for all kinds of scams (like mr.spread's implementation of the ultimate wealth-redistribution-scam called masternodes).
This will naturally lead to the centralization of many servicenodes in the hands of a few people.
And what's worse with SPR is that we are talking about servicenodes who will be supervising other coins full nodes.  ???
So WOW, I can't imagine a bigger clusterfuck from a (de)centralization standpoint.

Am I the only one who is worried about this?  8)
I hope not.

And when I say that "I have a problem with those people" I don't want you to think that I am losing sleep over all this.
I am merely trying to explain to you why some people on BCT behave like "cancer" lately, and are FUDding like crazy, lmao!

My desire that I want to uphold the principles of decentralization is the only thing that drives me.
Having good principles makes decision-making very easy.

So I just continue my work as best as I can, ... lol

I will address the trolls later.  8)

I disagree and honestly, most of those people have saved SPR from obscurity, kept it listed on at least one exchange. Some of us kept buying because nobody else did. And I doubt your statement about 10 people owning 5M SPR.

It's true what they say: you shouldn't mess with the market and just allow it to represent the true value.
What exactly is wrong with that?
The current 0.015$ are much better representing the current value of 1 SPR than any artificial situation you think you are supposed to uphold.
And for who exactly? To make the exchange rich?

What I mean is, I can't really be grateful to anyone who thinks he is supposed to keep SPR's price at a certain level.
What I can say with certainty is that Bittrex can go fuck themselves for creating this artificial pressure where coins are threatened with delisting, which in turn encourages many coins to waste a lot of money or turn into downright pump-and-dumps. That's what makes me sad.

Also, sorry, but you are contradicting yourself here, if - as you say - some of you kept buying "because nobody else did", and you did this for many months, then this is without doubt the confirmation that a tiny few own millions of SPR.

But that's OK.

Again, I want to emphasize that I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who owns large amounts of SPR. I am actually happy for you!
It's a free market, you can buy and sell as many SPR as you will find counterparties to close the deal with you.
It's between you, your buyer/seller and the exchange.

Most of those people have put a lot on the line *financially* (with their hard earned money) to keep SPR afloat and to dismiss that effort in a PnD accusation is beneath you.

SPR will be afloat aslong as a dev is coding, miners are mining and a community is interested to participate.
Big whales are just one of many animals that come together to make SPR work.

What? Are you trying to say that there aren't people within the SPR community that wanted to turn it into the usual ponzi-like machine since day one?
If I wasn't so protective, SPR would probably not exist anymore, because it would have gone the way most PnD coins go. That is just the truth.

But again, my accusations are not directed at anyone particular, since I will never let anything of this sort happen to SPR anyway, haha!  ;D

As long as I am the lead dev, all these scenarios are hypothetical anyway.
I guess I just want to explain why some people are behaving strangely right now.
8)

I think I know most of the people you are dismissing in that post and the truth is the opposite: we all want this to succeed. We are eager for it to succeed, for no other reasons than to see it grow.

Success by itself is meaningless, it's how you achieve that goal that matters.
Any scamcoin that "successfully" hustled lots of money from its victims has been a big success for its perpetrators.

BTW, I am not dismissing any particular person, just a particular behavior.
I like our community in general, small and cuddly,... like a dwarf hamster?

On the other hand, glad you confirmed you're only able to work between 0%-10%, something I felt but couldn't confirm. That is fine in itself, now we can all adjust expectations.

Confirmed?  :o
Have I not talked about this over and over again during the last year that I barely have time to work on this project?

I think the patronage system I am currently working on is the first promising system that will allow people to support me (and probably other devs we would need to carefully choose) while allowing me to stay fully independent and not be affiliated to any group of investors behind the scenes.

The only boss that I have are mathematics and the principles of decentralization.

As soon as you have the donation system ready you shouldn't have to depend on a day job as much. I hope you change your mind about that statement and use your supporters to move SPR ahead.

SPR is cheap as fuck. If you allow me to do my job and help me with the patronage I should soon be able to slowly increase the amount of time I can work on SPR,
while simultaneously decreasing the amount of time I spent on my dayjob. This could actually work, because as a self-employed programmer I can be more flexible than someone who has a 9-to-5-job.
But don't say that I shouldn't have to depend on a day job.
It's very dangerous to cut stable legs off just based on wishful thinking.
I need a little bit more security than that.

I am confident that over time I can increase the time I spend working on SPR, which will increase the accuracy of my deadlines and timeframes.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 07, 2017, 06:46:49 pm
I forgot:

The urgency is not as much to make money (some of it would float back to you and cancel the need of a day job) but some of us feel the urgency because it is a fast moving landscape and innovations happen at the speed of light. Some anxiety exists because by the time something is on the market, it is too late.

I think this is the main reason why we see so much copy-pasta in so many coins, instead of true innovation.
We have to move fast, right? No time for research, self-reflection, evolution etc..?
This is actually the context in which I saw gregory maxwell adress "faux urgency" (if I recall correctly)... to describe exactly this "fake urgency" to "do something for the sake of doing something" which is insane if you think about it.

I don't think that bitcoin moves at lightspeed. True standards can by definition not allow themselves to change quickly and often, or else adaptation will get jeopardized and all fucked up.
Just look at the bitcoin block size debate and how long it has been going on...

So we got that going FOR us, not against us.

If you stand by those few lines you wrote, you might be projecting scam methods used in the alt market on your own coin.

Seriously, I was just trying to explain why trolls and fudsters are having a tantrum right now. Nothing else.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 07, 2017, 06:54:37 pm
BTW, in the interest of further adding transparency I moved all SPR i own to my "Shutup"-Address.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/address.dws?ShutUpHxbuLdy22g9NE4afviUr2Cnqd68H.htm

I have a special announcement to make regarding this money, once I have the spreadminer and servicenode-research announcement ready.
They kinda necessitate each other.

Stay tuned.

 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 07, 2017, 07:01:49 pm
Your last project update with the various coins in the same wallet really stoked me.  I will continue to donate to you when I can afford to so it helps you with your efforts on development.   

Amen to that.
As I said, I want to create the wallet that I myself always wanted to have!  8)

Lastly, don't get frustrated with the community.  I know it is hard sometimes. 

I'm not frustrated in the slightest.
You know, I am convinced on more than just one level that patronage is the right way to move forward.

1) Those who want to help me can now do so. (and I can properly reward them for doing so)
2) Those who don't want to support me can just sit on their pile of SPR and angrily wave their fist. 8)

That's how I see it.

Now let me finish the next update, so I can soon send you guys an actual preview version. Lots of initial work still needs to be done so that the program runs stable on different machines with different configurations.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on January 07, 2017, 07:10:29 pm
Seriously, I was just trying to explain why trolls and fudsters are having a tantrum right now. Nothing else.

Ok, appreciate that and the other clarifications  8)

and help me with the patronage

Was the plan to get an account on https://www.patreon.com/ so we could contribute in many currencies?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 07, 2017, 07:15:13 pm
Your last project update with the various coins in the same wallet really stoked me.  I will continue to donate to you when I can afford to so it helps you with your efforts on development.   

Amen to that.
As I said, I want to create the wallet that I myself always wanted to have!  8)

Lastly, don't get frustrated with the community.  I know it is hard sometimes. 

I'm not frustrated in the slightest.
You know, I am convinced on more than just one level that patronage is the right way to move forward.

1) Those who want to help me can now do so. (and I can properly reward them for doing so)
2) Those who don't want to support me can just sit on their pile of SPR and angrily wave their fist. 8)

That's how I see it.

Now let me finish the next update, so I can soon send you guys an actual preview version. Lots of initial work still needs to be done so that the program runs stable on different machines with different configurations.

Well said!  :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 07, 2017, 07:22:50 pm
Was the plan to get an account on https://www.patreon.com/ so we could contribute in many currencies?

The patreon site is up, it just doesn't have any content yet:

https://www.patreon.com/hamsterinthemachine

I go by the name "hamster in the machine", lol... I will have to explain...

It's the first time I use patreon, but I have only heard nice things about them.
Let's see how this goes.

I don't know how easy it is for you to make a pledge.
I would appreciate it if you made a 1$ pledge to test.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on January 07, 2017, 07:35:48 pm
"hamster in the machine"
Like it... $1 test done... easy as pie  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 07, 2017, 07:42:37 pm
"hamster in the machine"
Like it... $1 test done... easy as pie  8)

Wow, works great.

Thanks.

I will define goals and rewards for patreon that will work a little bit different than the rewards I outlined for cryptocurrencies.

I will do some thinking.

But first the new video update, followed by a first preview version for you guys.
Then followed by the two announcements.

Sorry for the delays, but I will keep you updated.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 08, 2017, 04:35:36 pm
"hamster in the machine"
Like it... $1 test done... easy as pie  8)

Wow, works great.

Thanks.

I will define goals and rewards for patreon that will work a little bit different than the rewards I outlined for cryptocurrencies.

I will do some thinking.

But first the new video update, followed by a first preview version for you guys.
Then followed by the two announcements.

Sorry for the delays, but I will keep you updated.

This is a cool tool - However I will continue my donations in SPR -  :P
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 14, 2017, 08:02:27 pm
@georgem - When you say you are going to work on a new miner for Spreadcoin - do you mean the algorithm will change or you will make the miner better than what is available now?  I am curious because I use the custom one from SP however he hasn't updated it in quite a long time.  Just curious is all.  Thanks - pokeytex
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 14, 2017, 08:33:15 pm
@georgem - When you say you are going to work on a new miner for Spreadcoin - do you mean the algorithm will change or you will make the miner better than what is available now?  I am curious because I use the custom one from SP however he hasn't updated it in quite a long time.  Just curious is all.  Thanks - pokeytex

Still working on the specifications for the spreadminer.
If you want to get a general idea about what it will consist of, just look at the spreadwallet, and what it tries to achieve:

1) customizability
2) capable to work with multiple different coins
3) serves as testbed for servicenode research

etc...

Basically the same goals will apply for the spreadminer, but adjusted for miner terminology (customizable hash algorithms, handling of multiple GPUs (with different architecture), setup-help (auto best parameter find), shareble configuration-files, etc..).  8)

Spreadcoin algorithm will 100% NOT CHANGE in the foreseable future, unless protocol itself changes because of something that we will add that is needed for servicenodes to work.

... or you will make the miner better than what is available now?

Oh god yes 1000% better, it will be a much better experience overall than what people have to put up with these days when they run a miner.  8)
Plus I get to have my research testbed, because GPUs will be at the center of everything, and very important for both Spreadcoin and Servicenodes.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 14, 2017, 08:38:17 pm
Here's a quick screenshot/appetizer about one of the few current explorer functions that I will demonstrate in the next update video:

(http://i.imgur.com/7jou9UT.png)

New video will be ready soon, I just need to finish a few functions and test them.

Thanks for your patience, dear patrons!  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on January 15, 2017, 01:49:23 am
2) capable to work with multiple different coins

Multiple "different" coins as in merge mining SpreadX11 coins?

Different coins as in how different? What will be different?

Love to hear  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 15, 2017, 02:36:25 am
Multiple "different" coins as in merge mining SpreadX11 coins?

Well... every AUX-POW enabled coin that is merge-mineable with any other coin (not just SpreadX11) will work within the spreadminer...
Only condition is that they both use the same hash-algo (and that one is a child-coin and the other the parent-coin)
... but that's not what I am aiming at here.
It goes a little bit farther than just merge-mining.  ;)

Different coins as in how different? What will be different?

Love to hear  8)

Well their hashing algorithm is different.
Or more specific, how they combine and order different hash functions (like DSHA-256, Keccak, Blake, Groestl, Skein, etc..) to search for a hash solution is different.

For example:


So when I say "customizable" I mean that the spreadminer will be able to mine any coin (not just SpreadX11 or its children) that can be specified in a clear determined way, using an internal representative "language".
So there will be a graphical (and textual) representation of the hash-algo-CIRCUIT (if you will) that people (or devs rather) will be able to adjust.
You will be able to put together your own hashing algos like you would put together lego-blocks so to speak.

What this will do is help us create a tool that we and others can use, where we can change/update a hashing-mechanism by merely adjusting config and settings-files.
So there will be no need to recreate a miner from scratch (recompiling, building, etc.) each time there is a change in a coins algorithm.

Except maybe compiling the actual hash function kernels that are used by GPU... (I'm still researching and experimenting with this)

I will explain in more detail when I am finished with the specs,....
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: njs811 on January 15, 2017, 10:07:57 am
Though this is still something a bit way off, I'm curious as to your position on building dapps.  This is something I have become more interested in recently and would love to look into.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 15, 2017, 12:55:35 pm
Though this is still something a bit way off, I'm curious as to your position on building dapps.  This is something I have become more interested in recently and would love to look into.

That is not way off at all, but rather spot on.

How to efficiently research decentralized/distributed apps is the third field of interest right after spreadwallet and spreadminer.

Creating P2P software is hard on many levels:

It's difficult to test, since you would need many nodes.
It's difficult to debug, since you would need to record all communication between nodes (and track the internal states of all nodes) to figure out where something went wrong.

I have done most of my P2P Experiments with just 5-6 computers and older laptops I have lying around.
This just doesn't cut it anymore, so I am working on a cheap but (much) more large-scale solution.

(http://i.imgur.com/HnbrIB5.jpg?1)

This is what my other announcement will be about.
 8)

Can you guess what the solution will be about?
Lots and lots of raspberries or lots and lots of hamsters?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 15, 2017, 05:34:29 pm
Though this is still something a bit way off, I'm curious as to your position on building dapps.  This is something I have become more interested in recently and would love to look into.

That is not way off at all, but rather spot on.

How to efficiently research decentralized/distributed apps is the third field of interest right after spreadwallet and spreadminer.

Creating P2P software is hard on many levels:

It's difficult to test, since you would need many nodes.
It's difficult to debug, since you would need to record all communication between nodes (and track the internal states of all nodes) to figure out where something went wrong.

I have done most of my P2P Experiments with just 5-6 computers and older laptops I have lying around.
This just doesn't cut it anymore, so I am working on a cheap but (much) more large-scale solution.

(http://i.imgur.com/HnbrIB5.jpg?1)

This is what my other announcement will be about.
 8)

Can you guess what the solution will be about?
Lots and lots of raspberries or lots and lots of hamsters?

Hrmmm- methinks - "clusters"!  ;D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 16, 2017, 01:31:19 am
Though this is still something a bit way off, I'm curious as to your position on building dapps.  This is something I have become more interested in recently and would love to look into.

That is not way off at all, but rather spot on.

How to efficiently research decentralized/distributed apps is the third field of interest right after spreadwallet and spreadminer.

Creating P2P software is hard on many levels:

It's difficult to test, since you would need many nodes.
It's difficult to debug, since you would need to record all communication between nodes (and track the internal states of all nodes) to figure out where something went wrong.

I have done most of my P2P Experiments with just 5-6 computers and older laptops I have lying around.
This just doesn't cut it anymore, so I am working on a cheap but (much) more large-scale solution.

(http://i.imgur.com/HnbrIB5.jpg?1)

This is what my other announcement will be about.
 8)

Can you guess what the solution will be about?
Lots and lots of raspberries or lots and lots of hamsters?

Hrmmm- methinks - "clusters"!  ;D

I keep toying with the idea of building a (10) RPi 3 Cluster but don't know what the hell I will do with it when it is done! LOL - I am not a programmer.  I see all of the tutorials online about building them and honestly the only thing I can think of is if there was a way to mine with it.  Other than that I don't know.  I just think to build it would be really cool!  I am a geek for hardware!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 16, 2017, 11:58:33 am
Yes, I'm gonna build a Raspberry Pi 3 Cluster to bring my overlay and P2P research to the next level.
I'll probably start with a 15-16 node Cluster, to make a few tests.
And then move to much higher numbers (64, then 100?).  8)

It would be fantastic if I'm not the only one building and running such a cluster,
so I will keep you updated with any cluster-software I create so you can test it yourself.
Especially if you are a patron.

I keep toying with the idea of building a (10) RPi 3 Cluster but don't know what the hell I will do with it when it is done! LOL - I am not a programmer.  I see all of the tutorials online about building them and honestly the only thing I can think of is if there was a way to mine with it.  Other than that I don't know.  I just think to build it would be really cool!  I am a geek for hardware!

Well, one of the things you could always do with your RPi 3 Cluster is use it with the spreadwallet, and manage your 10 favorite coins with it. (1 full node per RPi 3).  8)

BTW, using RPi 3s for full nodes is just one of the tasks they could fullfill, but there are other ideas I have of how to put those "tiny 24/7 workers" to good use:

1) Exchange-Tick-Data Aggregator, so that you recreate a coinmarketcap-style site within the spreadwallet (and better yet: have access to historical tick-data if you let your worker run long enough)
2) Trading-Bot so you can be alerted or trade directly within the spreadwallet
3) Address-Observer, get alerted when there is movement in a coin address...

etc

Maybe you could explore a few ideas of your own? What jobs would you give your oompa loompas?

I'm currently not spending any time on this apect, but I'm just saying I design the spreadwallet's architecture as an open system, where other devs can add functionality in the form of plug-ins/dlls (each representing a worker-functionality and its overview screen)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on January 16, 2017, 04:22:38 pm
It would be fantastic if I'm not the only one building and running such a cluster,
so I will keep you updated with any cluster-software I create so you can test it yourself.

Would love to setup something like this

use it with the spreadwallet

Excellent setup, let me know if you need testers to help  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 17, 2017, 12:13:24 am
Yes, I'm gonna build a Raspberry Pi 3 Cluster to bring my overlay and P2P research to the next level.
I'll probably start with a 15-16 node Cluster, to make a few tests.
And then move to much higher numbers (64, then 100?).  8)

It would be fantastic if I'm not the only one building and running such a cluster,
so I will keep you updated with any cluster-software I create so you can test it yourself.
Especially if you are a patron.

I keep toying with the idea of building a (10) RPi 3 Cluster but don't know what the hell I will do with it when it is done! LOL - I am not a programmer.  I see all of the tutorials online about building them and honestly the only thing I can think of is if there was a way to mine with it.  Other than that I don't know.  I just think to build it would be really cool!  I am a geek for hardware!

Well, one of the things you could always do with your RPi 3 Cluster is use it with the spreadwallet, and manage your 10 favorite coins with it. (1 full node per RPi 3).  8)

BTW, using RPi 3s for full nodes is just one of the tasks they could fullfill, but there are other ideas I have of how to put those "tiny 24/7 workers" to good use:

1) Exchange-Tick-Data Aggregator, so that you recreate a coinmarketcap-style site within the spreadwallet (and better yet: have access to historical tick-data if you let your worker run long enough)
2) Trading-Bot so you can be alerted or trade directly within the spreadwallet
3) Address-Observer, get alerted when there is movement in a coin address...

etc

Maybe you could explore a few ideas of your own? What jobs would you give your oompa loompas?

I'm currently not spending any time on this apect, but I'm just saying I design the spreadwallet's architecture as an open system, where other devs can add functionality in the form of plug-ins/dlls (each representing a worker-functionality and its overview screen)

@georgem - I will DEFINITELY support the Spreadcoin network with a cluster.  I am more than happy to do so.  I like the idea of running nodes on the Pi's and will do that when the time is right.  I would love to create a cluster that can almost act like "Siri" or "Alexa", on a better scale, and have a central AI in the house.  Ask all sorts of hard questions that can go to the web and answer me.  Or better yet create their own programs for tasks I want done.  I know that is some "Tony Stark" kinda tech but hey one can dream!  ;D

edit - let me know when to order the parts and I will.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 21, 2017, 01:56:16 am
Though this is still something a bit way off, I'm curious as to your position on building dapps.  This is something I have become more interested in recently and would love to look into.

That is not way off at all, but rather spot on.

How to efficiently research decentralized/distributed apps is the third field of interest right after spreadwallet and spreadminer.

Creating P2P software is hard on many levels:

It's difficult to test, since you would need many nodes.
It's difficult to debug, since you would need to record all communication between nodes (and track the internal states of all nodes) to figure out where something went wrong.

I have done most of my P2P Experiments with just 5-6 computers and older laptops I have lying around.
This just doesn't cut it anymore, so I am working on a cheap but (much) more large-scale solution.

(http://i.imgur.com/HnbrIB5.jpg?1)

This is what my other announcement will be about.
 8)

Can you guess what the solution will be about?
Lots and lots of raspberries or lots and lots of hamsters?

Hang tight on the Rpi3's - I read that we can expect the Rpi4 end of February - of course just gossip - but where there's smoke there's fire!

http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/27763/raspberry-pi-4-what-to-expect
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 21, 2017, 02:48:16 pm
Hang tight on the Rpi3's - I read that we can expect the Rpi4 end of February - of course just gossip - but where there's smoke there's fire!

http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/27763/raspberry-pi-4-what-to-expect

I heard such rumours a few weeks ago.
If the next Raspberry Pi comes with 2 GByte RAM, this will be awesome.

But I need to start somewhere.
What I will do is what I have always been doing: don't wait for the perfect product, instead buy the hardware now, treat it well, keep all the original packing and wrapping, so you can sell it for a nice enough price on ebay later, then use this money to subsidise the newer model.

Atleast the switches, power supplies, cables (USB + Patch) and the whole casing you will not change very often.
But the raspberry units should be exchangeable quickly.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on January 21, 2017, 04:40:27 pm
Atleast the switches, power supplies, cables (USB + Patch) and the whole casing you will not change very often.

Pi cluster boards (eBay), USB hub, cable ducts and KVM.

Unplug the main boards when there's a new version and swap.

Easy setup for a dozen of these Raspberries 8)

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 23, 2017, 01:11:43 am
Finally, here's a short new update video about the current state of spreadwallet development.

I demonstrate the general behaviour of the explorer tabs, and a few of the commands that you can currently use.
You can type the block_nr, with or without coin name. Currently it will just show basic block-header-data. (More to come soon)
You can do a getaddr (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation#getaddr) to ask a full node to inform you about the peers it knows (or has seen in the past. It will list the 100 most recent ones)
You can do a ping on any IP.
You can do a portcheck on an IP that will tell you which of the coins in your coin-list is running on that IP.

Stay tuned for more.  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/AVS6beF.jpg) (https://vimeo.com/200603212)

https://vimeo.com/200603212 (https://vimeo.com/200603212)

Still working on the podcast, don't worry.  ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 23, 2017, 01:22:24 am
Thank you to all my patrons for their support.

If you would like to support me too, use one of the donation-addresses in my signature,
or if you want to use fiat money, visit my patreon page:

https://www.patreon.com/hamsterinthemachine

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 23, 2017, 07:50:11 pm
What do you guys think?

I am looking for a way to sell all my SPR holdings,
and go full patron mode from now on.

This way I can become a "truly independent dev", which will be needed if we want to take the principles of decentralization serious, and I think it will also send a good signal! 
I always wanted to be more like a Bitcoin dev (greg maxwell, etc..) when it comes to how my work is funded, instead of having it done like an Altcoin Dev (e.g. evan duffield who is simulatenously dev and the biggest currency holder).

I wanted to wait a few days with this, but some guy in the BCT thread is looking to buy lots of SPR and I thought this would be a good opportunity.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/address.dws?ShutUpHxbuLdy22g9NE4afviUr2Cnqd68H.htm

131850 SPR.

I want to use this money to buy a few GPU models, hardware and lots of rapsberry pi's, which will be needed for the spreadwallet, spreadminer and my network-experiments.

Also, another reason why I am doing this is:
I can't claim to be working on a decentralized servicenode model (that doesn't favor big whales) while being a big investor myself.
It would be a conflict of interest.
A Masternode-Wealth-Redistribution-Scam similar to Dash (or mr.spread's implementation) will never happen with Spreadcoin, as I alluded here (http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762.msg4157#msg4157).

I have no problem with rich people holding lots of SPR, but it would a "nightmare on centralization street" if those big whales controlled most of the servicenodes.

How does 4 BTC sound?

As an extra: you will become an insta-patron immediately forever, and I will send you any future preview version of all the tools I create (the first spreadwallet-previewversion to be released very soon).

This is an open offer to everyone.

What do you guys think? Good move? Bad move?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 23, 2017, 08:05:33 pm
Let me add to this.

I think it's a good opportunity for a few reasons:

1) Most of this money is not even my money, but a donation that stonehedge made that I was supposed to use for dev work specifically.
That's what I intend to do. I will buy Hardware specifically needed for the tools I am currently developing.

2) It's a good opportunity to switch to patron-only funding.
If my funding is dependent on how happy my patrons are, then this will create a healthy feedback loop that will benefit all of us.

3) It does NOT BENEFIT those big-time investors that have been trying for a long time to control EVERY ASPECT of spreadcoin.
And I mean literally every aspect of this coin.

4) It frees my mind, so that I can concentrate on decentralization.

BTW, nothing changes, I am just looking for a way to get rid of this money so I don't owe stonehedge any kind of favors.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 23, 2017, 08:22:37 pm
Okay, I wanted to get this off my chest early.

Feels good.

(http://i.imgur.com/gLepPHJ.jpg)

Now I will return to normal dev mode, we have a few things to discuss.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 23, 2017, 10:22:47 pm
Here is a screenshot showing how I currently save data that is received in SPV mode:

(http://i.imgur.com/bkUZZmY.jpg)

All those coin's nodes have as of this time been synced 100%.

It's interesting to see that SPR is by far the biggest size (if you look at the .dat file).

227 MByte.

Since SPR blockheaders are bigger than most other coins (most are 80 bytes, SPR is 185 bytes) and we are also a 1 min coin this adds up to 227 MByte,
also growing more rapidly then other coins.

Not that this is a problem, but just an interesting fact.

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 24, 2017, 01:54:02 am
What do you guys think?

I am looking for a way to sell all my SPR holdings,
and go full patron mode from now on.

This way I can become a "truly independent dev", which will be needed if we want to take the principles of decentralization serious, and I think it will also send a good signal! 
I always wanted to be more like a Bitcoin dev (greg maxwell, etc..) when it comes to how my work is funded, instead of having it done like an Altcoin Dev (e.g. evan duffield who is simulatenously dev and the biggest currency holder).

I wanted to wait a few days with this, but some guy in the BCT thread is looking to buy lots of SPR and I thought this would be a good opportunity.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/address.dws?ShutUpHxbuLdy22g9NE4afviUr2Cnqd68H.htm

131850 SPR.

I want to use this money to buy a few GPU models, hardware and lots of rapsberry pi's, which will be needed for the spreadwallet, spreadminer and my network-experiments.

Also, another reason why I am doing this is:
I can't claim to be working on a decentralized servicenode model (that doesn't favor big whales) while being a big investor myself.
It would be a conflict of interest.
A Masternode-Wealth-Redistribution-Scam similar to Dash (or mr.spread's implementation) will never happen with Spreadcoin, as I alluded here (http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762.msg4157#msg4157).

I have no problem with rich people holding lots of SPR, but it would a "nightmare on centralization street" if those big whales controlled most of the servicenodes.

How does 4 BTC sound?

As an extra: you will become an insta-patron immediately forever, and I will send you any future preview version of all the tools I create (the first spreadwallet-previewversion to be released very soon).

This is an open offer to everyone.

What do you guys think? Good move? Bad move?

@georgem - I just have a couple questions.  Why sell your SPR?  What motivation will you have to make SPR grow and prosper without having any SPR?  Also, if your goal is to decentralize why would you want to sell that much SPR to another individual like the person trying to buy 300k plus?  I am sure I am missing something.  Thanks for the response. -pokeytex
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 03:28:06 am
Clear, concise questions, I love it.

Why sell your SPR?
 

To buy hardware, right now, so that I can use it, right now.
I calculated that I'm gonna need about 4000$, which based on this low SPR price, means that I have to get rid of all my current SPR holdings, and pay the rest with a little fiat out of my own pocket.

What motivation will you have to make SPR grow and prosper without having any SPR?
 

Let me ask you back: if my efforts make the price of SPR rise, will you as a patron support me LESS or MORE?  8)

Also, if your goal is to decentralize why would you want to sell that much SPR to another individual like the person trying to buy 300k plus?

I love rich people, I want to be a rich person myself.

Rich SPR holders can't create centralization with their money.
Much like large BTC holders can't really do anything except sell or hold their money.

BUT: It looks entirely different when we talk about a mechanism like that used in Dash/Darkcoin (or other masternode-schemes):
Suddenly, those who hold large amounts of the currency get to control AND CENTRALIZE actual full nodes.

And THAT ALONE is what I have a problem with, not rich people.
I don't care who owns SPR and how much.
I care about whether this money can be used to compromise decentralization.

Servicenodes will NOT work like masternodes at all.

....

I can answer in more detail, but I'd rather not write these unreadable large posts. Nobody will want to read them anyway.
I'm awaiting your feedback.
I want you to absolutely understand my motivation.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 05:34:59 am
I will post this here too, because I think it further explains my reasoning and why I have made this decision.
Thanks for your consideration.
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@rhinomonkey:

Do you remember back in August/September when I openly started to contemplate the idea of "regular donations" and how they could help me more than anything else to achieve some kind of consistency in my work output?

That's how the seed for "patronage" was planted.

You understood my reasoning very well back then, and I am thankful for the regular(!) donations that you made in the following 3-4 months or so.

I hope that you will admit, seeing the current state of the spreadwallet etc... that something has considerably changed to the better. Right?
Because regular support (even if it is small right now) is what is needed to achieve some form of consistency.

But do you remember how some other people reacted back then?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.msg16114566#msg16114566

(http://i.imgur.com/O1K3igP.jpg)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(How fitting that they are both crowncoiners now, lol.)

Their reaction:
"georgem already own lots of SPR, therefor asking for regular donations is an insult"
... is basically what I heard them say.

Their reaction set a thought process in motion in my mind that made it clear to me that something is very very wrong with the SPR that I own,
how I received them, why I received them, and what I am expected to do with them. (wow, think about that for a minute)

So let me get this straight, I have been carrying these SPR around with me for more than a year, but they never really were of any help to me.
And even worse, when I try to actually make use of them (like I am trying today)...
..many people lose their minds.

LMAO!

Yet, stonehedge will claim that I have received all this wonderful help from him.
Well... for this to actually take place I would need to actually "finalize the deal" and "take profit", right?

Which is why I want to put this money to good use, as soon as possible, and also get rid of it at the same time.

The fact that I still own a considerable amount of SPR, undoubtetly stops people from becoming patrons because they think:
"this guy already owns an ungodly amount of SPR, I'm not gonna help this stupid fucker."

I can't have it both ways.
Either I do funding through patronage (which means immediate support in the here and now),
or I hold large amounts of SPR so that I can "fund later what I need funded now"... huh? ???

I already made my decision.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 06:04:30 am
@Patrons and Supporters.

So, I got a few things off my chest today.
Please don't read too much into it, look at it as some sort of house cleaning.

Ok.

Now the next thing that I want to work on regarding spreadwallet,
is to not add any more features right now, but to keep the current state as it is,
and just debug it a little and finalize those things that are just half finished.

The goal is to send you guys a working version that you can run on your computers, stable and reliable.
They will not do much, but you can watch the videos to get an idea about what you will be able to do.

I will create versions for windows, mac and linux.
What systems do you guys have available?

Have a nice evening.

georgem
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 24, 2017, 12:11:27 pm
Clear, concise questions, I love it.

Why sell your SPR?
 

To buy hardware, right now, so that I can use it, right now.
I calculated that I'm gonna need about 4000$, which based on this low SPR price, means that I have to get rid of all my current SPR holdings, and pay the rest with a little fiat out of my own pocket.

What motivation will you have to make SPR grow and prosper without having any SPR?
 

Let me ask you back: if my efforts make the price of SPR rise, will you as a patron support me LESS or MORE?  8)

Also, if your goal is to decentralize why would you want to sell that much SPR to another individual like the person trying to buy 300k plus?

I love rich people, I want to be a rich person myself.

Rich SPR holders can't create centralization with their money.
Much like large BTC holders can't really do anything except sell or hold their money.

BUT: It looks entirely different when we talk about a mechanism like that used in Dash/Darkcoin (or other masternode-schemes):
Suddenly, those who hold large amounts of the currency get to control AND CENTRALIZE actual full nodes.

And THAT ALONE is what I have a problem with, not rich people.
I don't care who owns SPR and how much.
I care about whether this money can be used to compromise decentralization.

Servicenodes will NOT work like masternodes at all.

....

I can answer in more detail, but I'd rather not write these unreadable large posts. Nobody will want to read them anyway.
I'm awaiting your feedback.
I want you to absolutely understand my motivation.

@georgem - I appreciate the answers and maybe I am reading into this too much - am I understanding correctly that the servicenode solution will not be based on how much SPR you hold but rather another mechanism?  8) - I might be trying to read between the lines too much.  It is hard for me to wrap my head around but I believe you have more up your sleeve that you aren't disclosing yet!  Interesting... 
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 24, 2017, 12:13:08 pm
@Patrons and Supporters.

So, I got a few things off my chest today.
Please don't read too much into it, look at it as some sort of house cleaning.

Ok.

Now the next thing that I want to work on regarding spreadwallet,
is to not add any more features right now, but to keep the current state as it is,
and just debug it a little and finalize those things that are just half finished.

The goal is to send you guys a working version that you can run on your computers, stable and reliable.
They will not do much, but you can watch the videos to get an idea about what you will be able to do.

I will create versions for windows, mac and linux.
What systems do you guys have available?

Have a nice evening.

georgem

I pledge .05 BTC (sorry it is not more - I am a guppy in a sea of whales!) when I receive this wallet...  Most appreciated. - pokeytex
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 03:52:14 pm
@georgem - I appreciate the answers and maybe I am reading into this too much - am I understanding correctly that the servicenode solution will not be based on how much SPR you hold but rather another mechanism?  8) - I might be trying to read between the lines too much.  It is hard for me to wrap my head around but I believe you have more up your sleeve that you aren't disclosing yet!  Interesting...

Yes, definitely.

Although this is still evolving, look at what I talked about in the past, like:


I need more research, something is still missing to make this all work.
The goal is to make it hard to run a servicenode profitable. Sounds weird and unintuitive?
It isn't. It's true capitalist economy.
It's the same reason why it is hard to make "mining" profitable, or "developing" for that matter (look at the struggles that I am having, lol).
If I the dev and the miners have to struggle all the time to get by, why should servicenodes have an easy time?  ;D

Running a servicenode should be equally tense and exhausting as running a miner, which means:

Look at this real world example:

I currently run 2 servers that cost me about 60 dollars each a month.
I use them for a few websites, everything spreadcoin and a few personal things.
And I also run a few full nodes on them (2x SPR, 2x BTC). Those nodes have been operating nicely during the last 2 years, but I've been doing a few experiments, so they are not online 24/7.
(1 SPR node is 24/7, because it is a seed node for SPR)
My servers have always been capable of handling both website traffic AND fullnode traffic without any problem.

Now, I don't need someone to promise me that I will receive 70 dollars a month when I run a servicenode (with bitcoin node) on a server.
I will be happy enough when running a servicenode on each of my servers gives me atleast SOMETHING back,
so that the operating costs of 60$/month get reduced to a certain extent.
How much I can't say, 5$, 10$, 30$? Obviously it will fluctuate.
It's the same principle with miners who always get atleast SOMETHING back for their work, although often not enough to be profitable.
Doesn't matter, people are still mining.

How much "income" servicenodes generate I can't say, but look at it as a form of subsidy,
the good kind of subsidy.
Because that's what we want to do:
we want to encourage people who run a server to operate a servicenode on it, so that they can reduce their overall servercosts.

It is NOT possible to promise them constant profits or even a positive ROI (as Dash does with masternodes).
This would be like promising miners a positive ROI all the time, and how would that make any sense???  :o
It would clearly be a scam or a ponzi like structure that tries to pay of the old guys by luring in new people with all kinds of deceptive PR etc...
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 03:53:13 pm
I pledge .05 BTC (sorry it is not more - I am a guppy in a sea of whales!) when I receive this wallet...  Most appreciated. - pokeytex

Thanks, that's very nice of you.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 04:47:48 pm
Georgem, I want pictures of hamsters!

Not pictures of the Spread community.  :P

Haha, you are right, but I don't think the Spread community is the problem.  8)

I never introduced you guys to my other hamster.

female djungarian dwarf hamster, 6 months old , has no official spreadcoin name yet:

(http://i.imgur.com/eDnQjfw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pxu1NxC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SQjurND.jpg)

She'll become the mascot of the spreadminer.

Hey minerpage, can you give her a name?
I would love that.

 :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 04:48:24 pm
BTW, in the spreadwallet, I have been including country-flags and a compact IPv4 and IPv6 database.

Both are free software or available under a creative commons license.

Country-Flags are from here:

http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/

(http://i.imgur.com/nB8dcE5.png)


And IP-Data is from MAXMIND GeoLite2 free edition:

http://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoip2/geolite2/

It consists of 3 csv-files that are imported into the spreadwallet.

Just for your information.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 04:53:24 pm
While I work on the preview-version I promised,
it would be nice if someone could help me find a good-looking worldmap that we could use within the spreadwallet.

It should be free to use, creative commons.
And it should be based on SVG format,
possibly even have each country's border available as its own separate data point.

(http://i.imgur.com/OYk9TLQ.png)

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 24, 2017, 07:19:36 pm
Thank you minerpage for your ongoing support.

Please don't misunderstand my statement that I made about my SPR holdings yesterday.

We can think about a solution that will make everyone happy.

I just can't wait to buy some hardware, it will be very helpful for the announcements of spreadminer and servicenode-research if I have actually something to show.

And if I am not allowed to dispose of my SPR holdings anyway I see fit, then what good are they anyway?

But I think I will revise my statement slightly, which was slightly over the top in the heat of yesterday.
I think I am just going to slowly sell a few SPR everyday at the exchanges so I can buy raspberry's, switches etc... one by one.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 24, 2017, 11:26:43 pm
While I work on the preview-version I promised,
it would be nice if someone could help me find a good-looking worldmap that we could use within the spreadwallet.

It should be free to use, creative commons.
And it should be based on SVG format,
possibly even have each country's border available as its own separate data point.

(http://i.imgur.com/OYk9TLQ.png)

Any ideas?

I just found this one - let me know?

https://www.amcharts.com/svg-maps/?map=world
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 25, 2017, 01:52:49 am
Yes, this one is perfect.
Complete with country-codes and the license is also OK.

Mercator projection lets greenland look as big as africa, lol, but doesn't matter.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 25, 2017, 08:08:57 pm
BTW, I will also be posting in the technical subforum of BCT from now on, instead of just in the spreadcoin-thread there.

So be sure to check out the threads in the technical subforum,
I will be discussing all kinds of things regarding protocols, wallets, etc..
and whatever problems I am currently trying to solve.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1763826.0

Should be helpful to find the right people that we can bring on board to create a good team.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on January 26, 2017, 02:07:33 am
BTW, I will also be posting in the technical subforum of BCT from now on, instead of just in the spreadcoin-thread there.

So be sure to check out the threads in the technical subforum,
I will be discussing all kinds of things regarding protocols, wallets, etc..
and whatever problems I am currently trying to solve.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1763826.0

Should be helpful to find the right people that we can bring on board to create a good team.

Enjoy.

LOL - Read all of it and that thread is WAYYYYY over my head.  Haha - however I will still read it!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on January 26, 2017, 07:45:54 pm
Holy mother.

2017 is off to a good start, I can't believe this!

Lord Kek has truly blessed spreadcoin!

I can't express how thankful I am for all the support that I am already getting.

What a joy.

Please read this todo-list (1-5) that I made back in dec 10th, it still pretty much represents what next steps I will take:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.msg17139447#msg17139447

Thanks everybody!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: slug on February 02, 2017, 09:31:38 pm
Congratulations on reaching your patreon goal!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 03, 2017, 12:23:17 am
Congratulations on reaching your patreon goal!

Thanks slug!  8)

Preview version coming later today.

Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 04, 2017, 11:31:35 am
New version almost ready.... cleaning up a few bugs...

I want the first preview version to leave a good impression.

Pleast stay tuned.

 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 05, 2017, 02:47:59 pm
Ok, new update is available, please watch the video on vimeo:

(http://i.imgur.com/Joehwc4.png?1) (https://vimeo.com/202628381)

Also, all patrons have received a download-link either through patreon, or as a PM in this forum.

Thanks for your support guys.

If you would like to support me and receive preview-version too, please visit
https://www.patreon.com/hamsterinthemachine
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 05, 2017, 02:50:07 pm
Looking forward to my patreons posting a few screenshots of the preview-wallet.

Is it working? I hope I didn't forget any important dll or something....

Please let me know if eveything is OK, and if you can start the wallet on your system.
BTW, linux and mac versions coming soon.

Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 05, 2017, 02:51:08 pm
PS: I will do everything I can to release a new version each weekend.  8)

Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 05, 2017, 03:00:15 pm
BTW, good sources for bitcoin nodes are

https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/

and for litecoin:

https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/nodes-active/

For spreadcoin use my full node:

SPR:5.35.253.206

or your own, as you like.

I suggest you connect to your local full nodes only, since we don't want to "annoy" other people's full nodes too much as long as the spreadwallet is still in development...  8)
But be your own judge.

The spreadwallet is now publicly presenting itself as /SpreadWallet:0.0.1/ so other nodes will know who they are talking with.  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/2uKTjbn.png?1)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 05, 2017, 03:40:42 pm
Oh, I forgot to say, the preview-wallet is currently limited to 1 connection per coin,
please consider this when you add nodes in the conf file.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 05, 2017, 05:09:49 pm
BTW, looking to buy some hardware with SPR again.

I placed 11850 SPR at 2000 Satoshis,
I want to revamp my MacBook Pro with 8Gbyte and an SSD (It currently only has 2Gbytes and a small 100 GByte SATA),
and also buy a 2-port KVM switch so that I can integrate my macbook through displayport into my main screen/mouse/keyboard setup.
After that, there might even be enough left for yet another Raspberry Pi,  8)

Thanks everybody.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on February 07, 2017, 03:20:46 am
Ok, new update is available, please watch the video on vimeo:

(http://i.imgur.com/Joehwc4.png?1) (https://vimeo.com/202628381)

Also, all patrons have received a download-link either through patreon, or as a PM in this forum.

Thanks for your support guys.

If you would like to support me and receive preview-version too, please visit
https://www.patreon.com/hamsterinthemachine

@georgem - I can confirm I received a download link - Thank you.  I just got back from a long weekend in Florida.  I will take a look at everything in the next few days.  Thanks again - pokeytex
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 07, 2017, 06:40:29 am
@pokeytex, sounds like you had a nice weekend.

Please let me know if your early preview-version works.
I would love to see a screenshot.

BTW, linux and mac versions should be available coming this weekend (+/-)

Also: lots of work ahead, spreadwallet is maybe 5-10% finished right now. Please take that into consideration while testing the preview-wallets. Thanks.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on February 09, 2017, 02:54:08 am
@pokeytex, sounds like you had a nice weekend.

Please let me know if your early preview-version works.
I would love to see a screenshot.

BTW, linux and mac versions should be available coming this weekend (+/-)

Also: lots of work ahead, spreadwallet is maybe 5-10% finished right now. Please take that into consideration while testing the preview-wallets. Thanks.

While I haven't had a chance to play with the new wallet yet - work has been murder this week - I did promise to send you .05 btc when the preview wallet came out.  Please find the tx id below.  Thank you - pokeytex.

Tx: 11daf4a365fe3b9570bd02d0ab7442f78d69ccc76f635e6bf886df6e6c21233d

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 09, 2017, 08:31:51 am
Thanks pokeytex, this helps a lot!

New version comes out this weekend.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 12, 2017, 08:38:22 pm
I am very thankful to everybody who keeps mining (and trading) SPR, especially in this interim time (before I will be able to release the SpreadWallet, plus a new Spreadcoin-Daemon and more).

I take my hat off to you guys.
You are awesome!

I will never do anything that jeopardizes the value of SPR,
and I will do everything I can to create applications that will add value to SPR (and only SPR)
by being unique, innovative and useful.

Stay tuned!

 8)

@Patrons: sorry I got a little bit distracted today, please allow another 24 hours for the next update. Thanks.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on February 13, 2017, 01:52:27 am
please allow another 24 hours for the next update
Looking forward to it  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 14, 2017, 04:14:02 pm
Stay tuned, I have the next update almost ready.

Here are screenshots of the linux and mac versions

(http://i.imgur.com/qjOLySO.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/d34AKqP.png)

As you see, it looks more or less exactly the same as the windows version, which is one of my design goals.

Now, I have to finish 2 functions first that I have started and that need to be finished before I can release the next update, or else it's gonna be a mess.
So stay tuned, shouldn't take much time.  :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: KL0nLutiy on February 20, 2017, 08:07:57 pm
Where to find the calculator of profitability?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on February 22, 2017, 12:12:48 pm
Hey Patrons,
work is progressing nicely, most of the ca 20 work hours invested during the last 2 weeks were spent on improving some base classes,
and this will result in a bigger update (or two) during this last week of february.
Thanks for your patience.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 06, 2017, 06:16:56 am
Georgem, any preview of your latest creation?

Lots of improvements everywhere. Update coming soon.

The Spreadwallet is now capable of succesfully identifying and recognizing your local nodes (and separating them from external nodes),
and figuring out whether they are raspberry pi's or from other manufacturers.

(http://i.imgur.com/0HSHLFm.png)

I am using a combination of arp (address resolution protocol), netstat (network statistics) and pinging
coupled with access to a list of IEEE 802ģ-2001 OUI (Organizationally Unique Identifier, see http://standards-oui.ieee.org/oui.txt (http://standards-oui.ieee.org/oui.txt))
that I use to lookup the manufacturer of a device (based on MAC-Address).

This way I get a good overview over the environment the SpreadWallet is operated in (devices, manufacturers, IPs, MAC-Addresses, etc..).

Local Nodes that are in full control of the SpreadWallet are now automatically shown with grey background and device symbol (if available - currently only rasp pi).
Extern Nodes that are not in control of the SpreadWallet (but which are used to create a "SPV"-style connection) are shown with transparent background,
as you can see in the pic above.

More Info soon. Lots of interesting details are in the making...  8)

(http://i.imgur.com/d391rIQ.png)

Thanks again to my patrons for their support and patience.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 18, 2017, 11:53:10 am
@georgem - good morning.  I don't know if you had a chance or not but I am ready to run the SPR node.  I just need a little tutorial on getting it to operate under Raspian Jessie.  I can get to the part of downloaded and decompressed from a tarball.  However, I am lost on how to run it.  Thanks - pokeytex (linux noob)  :o
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: RzeroD on March 18, 2017, 11:54:14 am
@georgem - good morning.  I don't know if you had a chance or not but I am ready to run the SPR node.  I just need a little tutorial on getting it to operate under Raspian Jessie.  I can get to the part of downloaded and decompressed from a tarball.  However, I am lost on how to run it.  Thanks - pokeytex (linux noob)  :o

+1 to that xD
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 18, 2017, 01:22:56 pm
@georgem - good morning.  I don't know if you had a chance or not but I am ready to run the SPR node.  I just need a little tutorial on getting it to operate under Raspian Jessie.  I can get to the part of downloaded and decompressed from a tarball.  However, I am lost on how to run it.  Thanks - pokeytex (linux noob)  :o

Hey pokey,

here are a few very rudimentary instructions of what you have to do.
(more detailled tutorial will come at a later time).

So, you already have Raspian Jessie installed. Good.
You have downloaded the spreadcoin daemon and decompressed it. Ok

Now navigate into the folder with the daemon, so that you are in the same folder.
BTW, I suggest you use a nice SSH client like for example Bitvise SSH Client (https://www.bitvise.com/ssh-client?gclid=CjwKEAjwtbPGBRDhoLaqn6HknWsSJABR-o5spw3oOegh_PEFjTYhPxHpOx2Y_RbT4POe7FUVAxbZZRoCzSTw_wcB) (it gives you more possibilites than putty).

Once you are in the folder with the daemon, start it with this command:

Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind -daemon -server
It will tell you that you need to first create a conf file. (Us starting the daemon once like this has created the necessary .spreadcoin folder in your home directory)

You can either create the conf file on your computer and upload it via the SFTP system of the SSH client (put the conf file into the .spreadcoin folder),
or you can create it directly in the terminal like this:

navigate to your home/.spreadcoin folder like this:

Code: [Select]
cd ~/.spreadcoin
create the conf file like this:
Code: [Select]
cat > spreadcoin.conf <<EOFthen just continue typing in the next lines as they appear:
Code: [Select]
rpcuser=<your rpc username>
rpcpassword=<your rpc password>
daemon=1
server=1
EOF

You typing EOF will close and save the spreadcoin file.
You can add more settings in your conf file according to your needs.

Now go back to your spreadcoind daemon folder, and try the

Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind -daemon -server
again.

Now the daemon will start and sync, after a while you should be able to do access the daemon like that:

Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind getinfoor
Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind getpeerinfo
etc...

So business as usual.

During the sync process the daemon will use 100% of all 4 Raspberry Pi 3 cores, so you might want to monitor its temperature like this:

Code: [Select]
/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
etc...

There are more things we can do, like move the spreadcoind daemon to the bin folder so that it can be accessed from everywhere,
also if for whatever reason you don't seem to have permission to access the daemon file, you might need to change its file permissions, like this:

Code: [Select]
sudo chmod 777 spreadcoind
or

Code: [Select]
sudo chmod +x spreadcoind
I hope this can also somehow help you, pokey.
Please give me your feedback and tell me how far you get.

BTW, it may easily take a few hours to sync if you start from scratch, so what you might want to do is copy the full blockchain data into your .spreadcoin folder via the SSH client to shorten the time.

We will also have to talk about routers and opening ports etc to allow your raspberry pi to have more connections etc...
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 18, 2017, 01:31:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/6TmgjbS.jpg?1)

My rapsberry pi 3 full nodes have been running stable for quite some time now.
But there can be all kinds of problems first, before a stable setup is reached.

Tell me about your experience guys, and if possible show me a pic or two of your rasps  :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 18, 2017, 01:42:59 pm
BTW, you can check if spreadcoind is running by checking its PID

Code: [Select]
pidof spreadcoind
if it returns a number you know that spreadcoind is running, if not, it isn't.

To shutdown the spreadcoind you need to type

Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind stop
If you need to use more force because spreadcoind isn't reacting for some reason, then kill its process like this:

Code: [Select]
kill -9 <the_pid_number_returned_by_pidof>
for example

Code: [Select]
kill -9 2803
or whatever your PID is.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on March 18, 2017, 04:10:29 pm
I'm planning on testing it on this using Windows 10:

https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1405.html

(http://i.imgur.com/q71cT1M.jpg)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 18, 2017, 04:47:04 pm
I'm planning on testing it on this using Windows 10:

https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1405.html

(http://i.imgur.com/q71cT1M.jpg)

A nice little device.
You should be able to just run the normal windows daemon on it, maybe even the spreadwallet.  8)
2GByte RAM gives many possibilites.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on March 18, 2017, 05:06:01 pm
maybe even the spreadwallet
That's the idea indeed, as soon as it's ready we can test. There's a version with 4GB just in case it's needed.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 23, 2017, 01:23:38 am
@georgem - good morning.  I don't know if you had a chance or not but I am ready to run the SPR node.  I just need a little tutorial on getting it to operate under Raspian Jessie.  I can get to the part of downloaded and decompressed from a tarball.  However, I am lost on how to run it.  Thanks - pokeytex (linux noob)  :o

Hey pokey,

here are a few very rudimentary instructions of what you have to do.
(more detailled tutorial will come at a later time).

So, you already have Raspian Jessie installed. Good.
You have downloaded the spreadcoin daemon and decompressed it. Ok

Now navigate into the folder with the daemon, so that you are in the same folder.
BTW, I suggest you use a nice SSH client like for example Bitvise SSH Client (https://www.bitvise.com/ssh-client?gclid=CjwKEAjwtbPGBRDhoLaqn6HknWsSJABR-o5spw3oOegh_PEFjTYhPxHpOx2Y_RbT4POe7FUVAxbZZRoCzSTw_wcB) (it gives you more possibilites than putty).

Once you are in the folder with the daemon, start it with this command:

Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind -daemon -server
It will tell you that you need to first create a conf file. (Us starting the daemon once like this has created the necessary .spreadcoin folder in your home directory)

You can either create the conf file on your computer and upload it via the SFTP system of the SSH client (put the conf file into the .spreadcoin folder),
or you can create it directly in the terminal like this:

navigate to your home/.spreadcoin folder like this:

Code: [Select]
cd ~/.spreadcoin
create the conf file like this:
Code: [Select]
cat > spreadcoin.conf <<EOFthen just continue typing in the next lines as they appear:
Code: [Select]
rpcuser=<your rpc username>
rpcpassword=<your rpc password>
daemon=1
server=1
EOF

You typing EOF will close and save the spreadcoin file.
You can add more settings in your conf file according to your needs.

Now go back to your spreadcoind daemon folder, and try the

Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind -daemon -server
again.

Now the daemon will start and sync, after a while you should be able to do access the daemon like that:

Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind getinfoor
Code: [Select]
./spreadcoind getpeerinfo
etc...

So business as usual.

During the sync process the daemon will use 100% of all 4 Raspberry Pi 3 cores, so you might want to monitor its temperature like this:

Code: [Select]
/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
etc...

There are more things we can do, like move the spreadcoind daemon to the bin folder so that it can be accessed from everywhere,
also if for whatever reason you don't seem to have permission to access the daemon file, you might need to change its file permissions, like this:

Code: [Select]
sudo chmod 777 spreadcoind
or

Code: [Select]
sudo chmod +x spreadcoind
I hope this can also somehow help you, pokey.
Please give me your feedback and tell me how far you get.

BTW, it may easily take a few hours to sync if you start from scratch, so what you might want to do is copy the full blockchain data into your .spreadcoin folder via the SSH client to shorten the time.

We will also have to talk about routers and opening ports etc to allow your raspberry pi to have more connections etc...

** KICK ASS TUTORIAL ** Thank you!  I am in the process of downloading the blockchain now.  I definitely had to mess with some permissions and have to use sudo in front of the commands but I am up and running.

(http://i.imgur.com/seLRduMl.jpg)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 23, 2017, 01:00:00 pm
** KICK ASS TUTORIAL ** Thank you!  I am in the process of downloading the blockchain now.  I definitely had to mess with some permissions and have to use sudo in front of the commands but I am up and running.

(http://i.imgur.com/seLRduMl.jpg)

Awww look at those tiny little cutie-pies!  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/LRo3bIq.jpg)

Thanks for your feedback, keep me updated about how it goes.
What temperature are you getting?
And I hope that it uses all 4 cores 100% during the sync?

use

Code: [Select]
top
to figure out cpu usage

(press Q to get out of "top")
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 23, 2017, 10:57:23 pm
** KICK ASS TUTORIAL ** Thank you!  I am in the process of downloading the blockchain now.  I definitely had to mess with some permissions and have to use sudo in front of the commands but I am up and running.

(http://i.imgur.com/seLRduMl.jpg)

Awww look at those tiny little cutie-pies!  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/LRo3bIq.jpg)

Thanks for your feedback, keep me updated about how it goes.
What temperature are you getting?
And I hope that it uses all 4 cores 100% during the sync?

use

Code: [Select]
top
to figure out cpu usage

(press Q to get out of "top")

It is alternating between the cores.  I am close to being finished with a fresh sync.  It has been 20 hours and I am around 6.5 million coins.  Not much more to go!

The temperature is a steady 49.4 degrees celsius.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: RzeroD on March 23, 2017, 11:20:51 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/seLRduMl.jpg)

I have to ask, what are those things and how I can buy a few ones? :0
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 23, 2017, 11:52:37 pm
I have to ask, what are those things and how I can buy a few ones? :0

Raspberry Pi 3 Model B.
Running spreadcoin full nodes 24/7.

They are very inexpensive, everything included (PSU, SDCard, Cables) it should cost you around 55-60 $, not more.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 23, 2017, 11:55:40 pm
It is alternating between the cores.  I am close to being finished with a fresh sync.  It has been 20 hours and I am around 6.5 million coins.  Not much more to go!

The temperature is a steady 49.4 degrees celsius.

Awesome.

Now, imagine that you will be able to automatically setup (no hassle with the terminal) and monitor your raspberry pi's from within the spreadwallet, ---> that's one of the goals of the spreadwallet.
Just plug in a fresh raspberry pi and let the spreadwallet handle the rest.  8)

So... as always ....

stay tuned!  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 24, 2017, 01:53:27 am
It is alternating between the cores.  I am close to being finished with a fresh sync.  It has been 20 hours and I am around 6.5 million coins.  Not much more to go!

The temperature is a steady 49.4 degrees celsius.

Awesome.

Now, imagine that you will be able to automatically setup (no hassle with the terminal) and monitor your raspberry pi's from within the spreadwallet, ---> that's one of the goals of the spreadwallet.
Just plug in a fresh raspberry pi and let the spreadwallet handle the rest.  8)

So... as always ....

stay tuned!  8)

Damn!  I like the sound of that!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 24, 2017, 01:55:01 am
(http://i.imgur.com/seLRduMl.jpg)

I have to ask, what are those things and how I can buy a few ones? :0

You can start here - https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Micro-Supply-Listed/dp/B01C6FFNY4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490320425&sr=8-1&keywords=rpi3+canakit (https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Micro-Supply-Listed/dp/B01C6FFNY4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490320425&sr=8-1&keywords=rpi3+canakit)

And then add on from there.  I am using 64gb chips but I think I am going to upgrade to the 128gb chips.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 24, 2017, 05:07:51 am
Damn!  I like the sound of that!

Hey pokey,
another question.
You said you installed Raspberry Jessie on your Pi.

What version did you use? A recent one?
Was SSH disabled by default? Or did you have to create an empty file named "ssh" and put it in the /boot folder, before you could remote access your rasp?

I am asking because since a few months ago, they have now disabled SSH by default, as they explain here:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/

I don't know which raspberry OS's are affected by this (not the version that I used), but it certainly is good practice to disable SSH by default so that people who want to use it have to specifically enable it first. Also important to change the "pi" user's password immediately after first login.

Anyway, just something to consider.

We certainly want SSH enabled since we want to operate Raspberry Pi's in headless mode, without monitor/keyboard.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 24, 2017, 10:49:08 am
Damn!  I like the sound of that!

Hey pokey,
another question.
You said you installed Raspberry Jessie on your Pi.

What version did you use? A recent one?
Was SSH disabled by default? Or did you have to create an empty file named "ssh" and put it in the /boot folder, before you could remote access your rasp?

I am asking because since a few months ago, they have now disabled SSH by default, as they explain here:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/

I don't know which raspberry OS's are affected by this (not the version that I used), but it certainly is good practice to disable SSH by default so that people who want to use it have to specifically enable it first. Also important to change the "pi" user's password immediately after first login.

Anyway, just something to consider.

We certainly want SSH enabled since we want to operate Raspberry Pi's in headless mode, without monitor/keyboard.

Good morning @Georgem - The version I used is downloaded from here https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ (https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/)

It is:

RASPBIAN JESSIE WITH PIXEL
Image with PIXEL desktop based on Debian Jessie
Version:March 2017
Release date:2017-03-02
Kernel version:4.4

Yes - ssh is disbaled by default which I can assume is a security plus.  I do change the password right away.  LOL it is a little bit of a pain in the arse since now i have to take out the hdmi cable and connect it to a monitor for the first boot-up to enable ssh.  But it isn't that much work!  :P
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 24, 2017, 05:25:05 pm
LOL it is a little bit of a pain in the arse since now i have to take out the hdmi cable and connect it to a monitor for the first boot-up to enable ssh.  But it isn't that much work!  :P

I hear that you don't need to do this anymore.
You can just place an empty file called "ssh" on your raspberry harddisk (just in the top most root folder) and SSH will be enabled.

See here again:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/

Quote
The boot partition on a Pi should be accessible from any machine with an SD card reader, on Windows, Mac, or Linux. If you want to enable SSH, all you need to do is to put a file called ssh in the /boot/ directory. The contents of the file donít matter: it can contain any text you like, or even nothing at all. When the Pi boots, it looks for this file; if it finds it, it enables SSH and then deletes the file. SSH can still be turned on or off from the Raspberry Pi Configuration application or  raspi-config; this is simply an additional way to turn it on if you canít easily run either of those applications.

So before you take out your SD-Card and insert it in your rasp pi, you would just create such a "ssh" named file on the SD-Card through your windows system (or whatever system you are using to burn the image on the SD-Card)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: RzeroD on March 24, 2017, 08:59:31 pm
Yeah but what are these cases? Looks cool :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 24, 2017, 09:31:56 pm
Yeah but what are these cases? Looks cool :D

Yes, those cases do look pretty awesome, lol.

pokeytex?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 24, 2017, 10:20:55 pm
Yeah but what are these cases? Looks cool :D

Yes, those cases do look pretty awesome, lol.

pokeytex?

Pretty sweet cases - Right! - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011HNZTFO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011HNZTFO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 24, 2017, 10:22:21 pm
LOL it is a little bit of a pain in the arse since now i have to take out the hdmi cable and connect it to a monitor for the first boot-up to enable ssh.  But it isn't that much work!  :P

I hear that you don't need to do this anymore.
You can just place an empty file called "ssh" on your raspberry harddisk (just in the top most root folder) and SSH will be enabled.

See here again:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-security-update-for-raspbian-pixel/

Quote
The boot partition on a Pi should be accessible from any machine with an SD card reader, on Windows, Mac, or Linux. If you want to enable SSH, all you need to do is to put a file called ssh in the /boot/ directory. The contents of the file donít matter: it can contain any text you like, or even nothing at all. When the Pi boots, it looks for this file; if it finds it, it enables SSH and then deletes the file. SSH can still be turned on or off from the Raspberry Pi Configuration application or  raspi-config; this is simply an additional way to turn it on if you canít easily run either of those applications.

So before you take out your SD-Card and insert it in your rasp pi, you would just create such a "ssh" named file on the SD-Card through your windows system (or whatever system you are using to burn the image on the SD-Card)

I will try this on my next PI.  I am new to linux so everything is a hurdle for me!  ::)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: RzeroD on March 25, 2017, 12:30:08 pm
georgem the SpreadCoin Daemon is only available for RPi 3? There is no version for windows or other linux distros? I want to test the service nodes system ^^
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 25, 2017, 02:13:51 pm
georgem the SpreadCoin Daemon is only available for RPi 3? There is no version for windows or other linux distros? I want to test the service nodes system ^^

Look here:

http://spreadcoin.info/downloads.php

Here are all the downloads available if you want to run a node in another system.

Servicenodes are not available yet.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 25, 2017, 02:45:40 pm
georgem the SpreadCoin Daemon is only available for RPi 3? There is no version for windows or other linux distros? I want to test the service nodes system ^^

Look here:

http://spreadcoin.info/downloads.php

Here are all the downloads available if you want to run a node in another system.

Servicenodes are not available yet.

I believe I am running (2) nodes - one on my windows machine (wallet & daemon) and one on the Rpi3 - Is that possible on the same IP?  Although I use a VPN on the Windows machine - so it is (2) separate IP's.  LOL - I think I just answered my own question.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 25, 2017, 03:21:07 pm
I believe I am running (2) nodes - one on my windows machine (wallet & daemon) and one on the Rpi3 - Is that possible on the same IP?  Although I use a VPN on the Windows machine - so it is (2) separate IP's.  LOL - I think I just answered my own question.

That is a very interesting and far-reaching question.

It depends how you want your full node to appear to the outside world (so that other nodes can find it).

To first answer your question. YES, you can have as many nodes (of the same coin) as you like behind the same external IP, but NOT behind the same IP and Port!

Meaning, if you set your router to forward port 41678 to a specific computer in your local network, then that computer is the only node that will be accessible through this IP/Port combination.
Any other local nodes will have to use another port and will only be able to make outbound connections to the network, they will not easily accept inbound connections. (which is actually good from a security standpoint)

This is the whole secret behind why some full nodes max out at 8 connections,
but other nodes (on a server for example) can have 100 or more connections.
The latter is more visible to the outside world and is broadcasting in the IP/(official Port) combination for other nodes to use.

In that sense, this is all very interesting, because it ties a little to this general theme that we keep hearing about with bitcoin,
you know... that bitcoin has 5-6000 full nodes?
Yes, but those are all full nodes that run on the official port and are therefor easily accessible by other nodes and will readily accept both outbound and inbound connections.
But there are actually probably 20-30000 additional full bitcoin nodes that run in the same mode that your secondary rasp pi is running,
such "secondary full nodes" are able to connect to the network and share blockchain data, but they do not allow inbound connections just like that.

You can do the following experiment:

Set up your router to forward port 41678 to a certain node in your local network, and then observe what happens to the max connections with this node and the other "secondary" nodes (that don't use the official SPR port).

Fun stuff, I like your questions a lot pokey, you are thinking! 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 25, 2017, 03:26:10 pm
Another example:

I am GPU-mining on a machine in my workshop, so I want to be connected to as many other nodes as possible to reduce the risk of orphan blocks.

Now, if I don't forward port 41678 to this specific miner node computer, then that node maxes out at 8 connections,
but if I do open and forward the port I get much more connections.

Currently it has 45 connections.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 25, 2017, 09:36:23 pm
Another example:

I am GPU-mining on a machine in my workshop, so I want to be connected to as many other nodes as possible to reduce the risk of orphan blocks.

Now, if I don't forward port 41678 to this specific miner node computer, then that node maxes out at 8 connections,
but if I do open and forward the port I get much more connections.

Currently it has 45 connections.

Oooh - That is some very interesting shiznit!  I did check my mining wallet and it only has ( 8 ) connections.  I also checked my new Rpi3 node and only ( 8 ) connections.  I will forward the port as you described and see what happens to the mining wallet.

Ok - I realize I had changed the port that my mining wallet is on.  That shouldn't matter correct?  Now should I change the port to the Rpi3 node in the .conf file and restart the daemon?  Also, do I need to restart the wallet to have the connections increase or is it on the fly once the router is set up properly?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 26, 2017, 12:00:45 am
Ok - I realize I had changed the port that my mining wallet is on.  That shouldn't matter correct?  Now should I change the port to the Rpi3 node in the .conf file and restart the daemon?  Also, do I need to restart the wallet to have the connections increase or is it on the fly once the router is set up properly?

You need to restart it.
For nodes that are connected with your mining operation it's better to use the official port.
You want to look as official as possible to any outside nodes, so they will readily connect with you.

Or in other words: you want your local node to look and act like an actual server.

But be careful what ports you forward, don't open more ports than necessary, be very specific.
Don't activate any of the UPNP shit, it's not needed.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 26, 2017, 12:02:30 am
Also remember, you can only forward a port to ONE SINGLE specific device in your local network.
It's not possible to forward a port to more than one local IP.

You see that is exactly what makes that one specific device more "attractive" to the outside world.
And that's why the connectivity improves.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 27, 2017, 01:59:46 pm
Pure insanity, eh?

Well, my GPUs and Raspberry-Pi-Cluster are now fully funded.
Thanks to the buyers for making this possible.

 8)

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 28, 2017, 12:25:55 am
Pure insanity, eh?

Well, my GPUs and Raspberry-Pi-Cluster are now fully funded.
Thanks to the buyers for making this possible.

 8)

Stay tuned!

Which GPU's did you settle on?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 28, 2017, 12:58:36 pm
Which GPU's did you settle on?

Right now

2x GTX 1050 Ti (already installed)
and
1x GTX 1080 Ti (ordered, will receive next week)

But I will buy more a little later, when prices come down a little.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 28, 2017, 09:12:56 pm
Which GPU's did you settle on?

Right now

2x GTX 1050 Ti (already installed)
and
1x GTX 1080 Ti (ordered, will receive next week)

But I will buy more a little later, when prices come down a little.

Sweet - I use all 1070's.  Let me know how that 1080ti works.  I am looking to purchase some more rigs.  Might consider the 1080's.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 29, 2017, 12:25:33 am
Sweet - I use all 1070's.  Let me know how that 1080ti works.  I am looking to purchase some more rigs.  Might consider the 1080's.

So how many hashes does a 1070 do with the normal miner?
And how much better does it get with sp_'s improved miner?

I will keep you updated about the 1080 Ti
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 29, 2017, 10:16:32 am
Sweet - I use all 1070's.  Let me know how that 1080ti works.  I am looking to purchase some more rigs.  Might consider the 1080's.

So how many hashes does a 1070 do with the normal miner?
And how much better does it get with sp_'s improved miner?

I will keep you updated about the 1080 Ti

Unfortunately, I only have SP's miner as a tool.  It gets 8500 - 8900 mhs/sec.  I have the mem clock down to -512 and the core clock at +125.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on March 30, 2017, 12:29:46 pm
Which GPU's did you settle on?

Right now

2x GTX 1050 Ti (already installed)
and
1x GTX 1080 Ti (ordered, will receive next week)

But I will buy more a little later, when prices come down a little.

Sweet - I use all 1070's.  Let me know how that 1080ti works.  I am looking to purchase some more rigs.  Might consider the 1080's.

@Gerogem - what do the 1050ti's get on Spreadx11?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on March 30, 2017, 01:13:56 pm
@Gerogem - what do the 1050ti's get on Spreadx11?

Each a little over 2500 khs.
But that's with the old spreadminer (tsiv).
And I am not doing any overclocking.

I went with those 2 first, because TDP is just about 70 Watts, and they are very silent. (and they cost only about 140$)

I think with SP miner they should average about 3000 khs
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 02, 2017, 08:20:51 pm
I believe I am running (2) nodes - one on my windows machine (wallet & daemon) and one on the Rpi3 - Is that possible on the same IP?  Although I use a VPN on the Windows machine - so it is (2) separate IP's.  LOL - I think I just answered my own question.

That is a very interesting and far-reaching question.

It depends how you want your full node to appear to the outside world (so that other nodes can find it).

To first answer your question. YES, you can have as many nodes (of the same coin) as you like behind the same external IP, but NOT behind the same IP and Port!

Meaning, if you set your router to forward port 41678 to a specific computer in your local network, then that computer is the only node that will be accessible through this IP/Port combination.
Any other local nodes will have to use another port and will only be able to make outbound connections to the network, they will not easily accept inbound connections. (which is actually good from a security standpoint)

This is the whole secret behind why some full nodes max out at 8 connections,
but other nodes (on a server for example) can have 100 or more connections.
The latter is more visible to the outside world and is broadcasting in the IP/(official Port) combination for other nodes to use.

In that sense, this is all very interesting, because it ties a little to this general theme that we keep hearing about with bitcoin,
you know... that bitcoin has 5-6000 full nodes?
Yes, but those are all full nodes that run on the official port and are therefor easily accessible by other nodes and will readily accept both outbound and inbound connections.
But there are actually probably 20-30000 additional full bitcoin nodes that run in the same mode that your secondary rasp pi is running,
such "secondary full nodes" are able to connect to the network and share blockchain data, but they do not allow inbound connections just like that.

You can do the following experiment:

Set up your router to forward port 41678 to a certain node in your local network, and then observe what happens to the max connections with this node and the other "secondary" nodes (that don't use the official SPR port).

Fun stuff, I like your questions a lot pokey, you are thinking! 8)

BTW - I did this and now I enjoy 38 connections to my new Rpi3 node!  I still can't get my wallet on another computer to show more then 8 connections.  I do have it on a different port but I forwarded that port number and also opened it up in Windows Firewall for both private and public.  Oh well.  It still works nicely.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 03, 2017, 11:49:39 am
BTW - I did this and now I enjoy 38 connections to my new Rpi3 node!  I still can't get my wallet on another computer to show more then 8 connections.  I do have it on a different port but I forwarded that port number and also opened it up in Windows Firewall for both private and public.  Oh well.  It still works nicely.

Ok, I will further explore this, and try to recreate your situation. This could have many different reasons.
I'm also looking into connectivity when a node is in IPv6 or TOR mode.
Will keep you guys updated.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 05, 2017, 11:31:55 pm
@Georgem - I just realized you have a slack channel.  LOL - I am pretty sure I have donated over $100.  Can I get an invite pretty please?  ::)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 06, 2017, 08:52:39 am
@Georgem - I just realized you have a slack channel.  LOL - I am pretty sure I have donated over $100.  Can I get an invite pretty please?  ::)

Sure, please send me your email address through PM.

PS: Although I try to limit slack to people who pay over 100$ a month, but I will make an exception for you, since you have been so cooperative all this time.
BTW, the amount is just arbitrary, I put it this high, because actually I do not really have time for slack, lol. But we can chat a little, sure!  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 06, 2017, 06:17:57 pm
Wellwell, a few packages for the raspberry pi cluster have arrived:

(http://i.imgur.com/nXNkmGr.jpg?1)

This is the casing that I am using.
It will hold 48 Raspberry Pi's, all their Powersupplies and a 48 port switch.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 06, 2017, 06:20:52 pm
... and a new set of rapsberry pi's plus microSD-Cards (16 GB)

(http://i.imgur.com/PMmeJue.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 06, 2017, 06:28:18 pm
... lots and lots of spacers and screws that I will use to mount the raspberry pi's on plexiglas plates.
(3x raspberry pi's per plate)

(http://i.imgur.com/pthrQwO.jpg?1)

...more packages with interesting stuff should arrive soon.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 06, 2017, 11:06:32 pm
... lots and lots of spacers and screws that I will use to mount the raspberry pi's on plexiglas plates.
(3x raspberry pi's per plate)

(http://i.imgur.com/pthrQwO.jpg?1)

...more packages with interesting stuff should arrive soon.

I am liking where this is going!  A super node?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 07, 2017, 11:26:25 am
The raspberry cluster will allow me to basically have a...

"testnet in a box"

As if creating P2P software isn't hard enough, what's making it even more difficult for devs is that P2P applications only show their true (often unexpected) behaviour when they are running on the network.
So then, how can you quickly debug, develop and test P2P software when you only have 2 or 3 computers to test on?

Well, you can't really, and that's where the "testnet in a box" comes in.

48 nodes is a pretty decent network.

I'll explain more as the "process of creation unfolds" ...  ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 07, 2017, 11:35:33 am
So think of it this way:

1) The cluster is my own local network where I develop and test the next version/iteration of spreadcoin/servicenodes.

2) Once I am confident that the next version behaves as expected I will release that version for the actual testnet (you guys!)

3) If this works out well too, we can switch the version to mainnet.

Voila.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 07, 2017, 11:31:00 pm
So think of it this way:

1) The cluster is my own local network where I develop and test the next version/iteration of spreadcoin/servicenodes.

2) Once I am confident that the next version behaves as expected I will release that version for the actual testnet (you guys!)

3) If this works out well too, we can switch the version to mainnet.

Voila.

If I had half your smarts I would build a time machine!  ;D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 07, 2017, 11:32:00 pm
LOL - Break out the beer - it's going to take a while to clone (48) sd cards - LOL
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 07, 2017, 11:41:33 pm
LOL - Break out the beer - it's going to take a while to clone (48) sd cards - LOL

Indeed, that will suck ass!  :o

Although I haven't received all 48 raspberries yet (and all the stuff needed with it).
But I can now start building the case and work on the software. :-)

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 08, 2017, 12:16:17 am
LOL - Break out the beer - it's going to take a while to clone (48) sd cards - LOL

Indeed, that will suck ass!  :o

Although I haven't received all 48 raspberries yet (and all the stuff needed with it).
But I can now start building the case and work on the software. :-)

Ok - so you can tackle it in pieces.  Much better!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 08, 2017, 12:21:34 am
Those are the plexiglas plates (25 x 12 cm) that will be placed in the case.

(http://i.imgur.com/k7BatCX.jpg?1)

Each plate will hold 3 raspberries.
You'll be able to slide the plates in and out.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 08, 2017, 12:27:41 am
And here's the 48-port switch:

(http://i.imgur.com/wneWSLj.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/MxXbwA6.jpg?1)

First tests show that it works great.

D-Link DES-1210-52

http://us.dlink.com/products/business-solutions/48-port-fast-ethernet-websmart-switch-including-2-gigabit-base-t-and-2-gigabit-combo-base-tsfp/

BTW, it's actually a 52 port, not just a 48, but I don't care about the additional 4 lol...
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on April 08, 2017, 02:47:22 am
Wait, how is that going to work when each node needs it's own IP (WAN) address?

You have a Class-C block at home or something?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 08, 2017, 03:00:40 am
Any P2P network can work in a local network too (with local IPs), why do you assume it requires WAN?

I'm pretty sure local blockchains are tested and run right now in some universities and corporations somewhere on the globe.

:-)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on April 08, 2017, 03:07:51 am
why do you assume it requires WAN?
communicate with Peers with the outside world?

or keep it internal only?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 08, 2017, 03:18:16 am
communicate with Peers with the outside world?

or keep it internal only?

The plan is only internal, that's why I need many nodes.

It's basically sand-boxed, but gives me the possibility to see and record EVERYTHING that happens.  8)

It is actually possible for such local nodes to all connect with the outside world, but they will all have the same external IP, and will have to use different ports.
But that's not what I am aiming at.
(Also, my internet router would probably have a hard time handling 48 nodes that all want to connect with the outside world at the same time.)

So yes, local network only.
"testnet in a box"
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: minerpage on April 08, 2017, 03:26:01 am
It's basically sand-boxed, but gives me the possibility to see and record EVERYTHING that happens.  8)

nice playground 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 08, 2017, 03:34:05 am
nice playground 8)

Thanks, it's what I do. (lol)

BTW, I'm in the workshop right now, so I am not able to read Slack.
But I didn't forget you, ... will contact you over the rest of the weekend.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 09, 2017, 03:55:36 am
This is how I will arrange 3 raspberrys on each of the 16 plexiglas plates (so that the least amount of space is used)

(http://i.imgur.com/nez8cg2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KRGruNj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yNfRi4d.jpg)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 09, 2017, 09:45:31 am
This is how I will arrange 3 raspberrys on each of the 16 plexiglas plates (so that the least amount of space is used)

(http://i.imgur.com/nez8cg2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KRGruNj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yNfRi4d.jpg)

Will the plexiglas plates stand off from each other with the posts or is their slats that they will go into?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dominus on April 09, 2017, 10:22:55 am

The plan is only internal, that's why I need many nodes.

It's basically sand-boxed, but gives me the possibility to see and record EVERYTHING that happens.  8)

It is actually possible for such local nodes to all connect with the outside world, but they will all have the same external IP, and will have to use different ports.
But that's not what I am aiming at.
(Also, my internet router would probably have a hard time handling 48 nodes that all want to connect with the outside world at the same time.)

So yes, local network only.
"testnet in a box"

I was thinking - why not just using a large number of virtual machines?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 09, 2017, 11:28:32 am

Will the plexiglas plates stand off from each other with the posts or is their slats that they will go into?

The plates themselves are the slates.
They will be approximately 5 cm apart.
I will saw grooves into the caging where the slates will slide into.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 09, 2017, 11:34:18 am
I was thinking - why not just using a large number of virtual machines?

I thought about that.
I don't think you can "just" do it like that.

It's not just that it is complicated to properly emulate all the hardware on a desktop pc (CPU/RAM/Diskspace of 48 x "rasp pi 3" nodes means: 192x 1.2 GHz ARM CPU-Cores with 48 GByte RAM, and BTW diskspace of each node would have to be emulated in RAM too, because you are going to have a hundred or so read/write operations on your "virtual harddisk" at the same time. It would kill your local harddisk).
So just the RAM requirements of such a virtual machine host would be gigantic.

But the real problem is that it's even more complicated to emulate an actual P2P Network, with actual TCP sockets and MAC addresses etc.
(each node would need to have a unique IP capable to have multiple connections with other nodes, sending packages to each other all the time.)

Can this be done virtually without having to spend more money than just buying lots of raspberries and a switch?
I don't know.

Maybe someone can try that approach?  ::)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dominus on April 09, 2017, 02:39:15 pm
I'm quite sure there is no need for so much ram. The disk can handle many connections as it handles when downloading torrents etc...

The network is a bigger issue offcourse.

I forgot to mention also it would make sense only if You allready had the good and available PC or more of them.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 09, 2017, 06:28:32 pm
I'm quite sure there is no need for so much ram.

Depends on what you want to do.
I don't think you grasp the scope of the project, lol
It's good when the "testnet in a box" has much headroom to do extensive experiments,
why would I limit myself from the getgo?

The disk can handle many connections as it handles when downloading torrents etc...

Yes, a program usually flushes data to its files in regular intervals and not all the time.
But I have no idea how (or if) a virtual machine manager is going to handle the fileIO of multiple independently running systems.

Sure, your bittorrent handles many connections at the same time and has a flushing-schedule when writing data to files,
but try and open MULTIPLE bittorrent-like programs side by side and see what happens.  8)

E.g. when I run bittorrent and JDownloader at the same time and with high workload I can usually forget doing anything else with the harddisks occupied by those two programs during that time.
It will just be too slow.

The network is a bigger issue offcourse.

I forgot to mention also it would make sense only if You allready had the good and available PC or more of them.

I don't think we are talking about "normal PCs" here anymore when you are looking for something that is able to virtualize such a high load.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dominus on April 10, 2017, 05:27:02 am

I don't think you grasp the scope of the project, lol


I think You are right  :P
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 12, 2017, 03:08:38 am
Testing with 10 Raspberries.

Not yet in slate mode, ... but soon.

(http://i.imgur.com/TpwbV01.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/rUqkc2j.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/MIsnyJ9.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 12, 2017, 09:25:50 am
Testing with 10 Raspberries.

Not yet in slate mode, ... but soon.

(http://i.imgur.com/TpwbV01.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/rUqkc2j.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/MIsnyJ9.jpg?1)

Hot diggity dog!  Look at that setup.  You're like a mad scientist bringing Frankenstein to life!  LOL 
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 12, 2017, 02:07:19 pm
Hot diggity dog!  Look at that setup.  You're like a mad scientist bringing Frankenstein to life!  LOL

Why thanks, but I'm just an assistant.

Here is the real boss, reviewing progress:

(http://i.imgur.com/RCpFtdM.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/Z6ExN0S.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 21, 2017, 12:19:03 am
Sweet - I use all 1070's.  Let me know how that 1080ti works.  I am looking to purchase some more rigs.  Might consider the 1080's.

MSI 1080 ti works so well, wow!

It makes about 15.5 MHash with sp_ and a little tweaking.

(I am sure I could overclock more.. but I like how silent and cool it now is, barely 70 degrees C)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on April 21, 2017, 01:17:57 am
Sweet - I use all 1070's.  Let me know how that 1080ti works.  I am looking to purchase some more rigs.  Might consider the 1080's.

MSI 1080 ti works so well, wow!

It makes about 15.5 MHash with sp_ and a little tweaking.

(I am sure I could overclock more.. but I like how silent and cool it now is, barely 70 degrees C)

Hot damn!  That sounds like a sweet card, you probably can't stop staring at it! LOL
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dominus on April 21, 2017, 01:23:10 pm
Sweet - I use all 1070's.  Let me know how that 1080ti works.  I am looking to purchase some more rigs.  Might consider the 1080's.

MSI 1080 ti works so well, wow!

It makes about 15.5 MHash with sp_ and a little tweaking.

(I am sure I could overclock more.. but I like how silent and cool it now is, barely 70 degrees C)

Is this in an open rig? How many degrees in the room? And What is the gpu frequency on the default settings?

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 21, 2017, 01:48:47 pm
Is this in an open rig? How many degrees in the room? And What is the gpu frequency on the default settings?

Yes, open rig.

This is the exact model I have:

MSI GEFORCEģ GTX 1080 TI GAMING X 11G

Look here for specifications:

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-GAMING-X-11G.html#hero-overview

I run it together with a Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti on one motherboard, powerneed of the whole system is ca 450 Watts.
So "degrees in the room" is not something I worry about because how much heat you think 450 Watt will produce?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dominus on April 21, 2017, 02:12:58 pm
@georgem
I'm just comparing to my 1070. I expected to see higher temperatures on 1080ti but it depends on many factors... One is room temp ;)

edit:
Picture for comparision @room temp 21.6įC
(https://s4.postimg.org/g0fld1isd/1070_spread.png)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 21, 2017, 06:02:09 pm
I expected to see higher temperatures on 1080ti but it depends on many factors... One is room temp ;)

Ofcourse, I just don't think the parameter "room temp" is very meaningful.
I mean, how big is your room, how does hot air leave and fresh air enter (is there even ventilation?), etc.
Also, what's the climate like in your country?  ;)

For example, if you have a tiny room then high room temperature is kinda expected, but if you have a big room and STILL have high room temperature I would start to worry.

But yeah, how much Wattage are we talking about...

BTW, my room is ca 20 square meters in size, and room temp was 22 degrees after one whole night/day of mining.
Location is switzerland, and just 4 days ago it snowed here (it sometimes does that in april). Snow has melted in the mean time but temperate outside is just 9 degrees right now. So that's that ... 8)

Here's a screenshot of my setup:
(http://i.imgur.com/UYELUKm.jpg)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dominus on April 21, 2017, 07:42:45 pm
@georgem
Tnx for screenie ;)

I don't care about the room temp itself, just wanted the gpu ambient temp. for a comparision as I said... My gpu is also in an open rig and not in a gpu sandwich.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on April 21, 2017, 11:22:05 pm
@georgem
Tnx for screenie ;)

I don't care about the room temp itself, just wanted the gpu ambient temp. for a comparision as I said... My gpu is also in an open rig and not in a gpu sandwich.

You are welcome.

I need to do a lot more tweaking before I will be 100% happy, but I am very pleased with the hardware.

But the software.... meh!  :P
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: crypticj on April 22, 2017, 07:40:38 am
Hey guys I just posted the blockchain for spreadcoin

https://mega.nz/#!F3AhHQib!HiHfdeB1DCWYUzjeonDGkXkZsOnLBe2rwqyC9cERPp8

It took me 20 hours to sync my wallet to start mining and i have 300MB/s internet so her is the blockchain upto 1.410 Million Blocks Hope that helps.

Here is more details:
http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=773.0
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on May 20, 2017, 12:40:49 am
Short update: Here are a few new pics of the raspberry pi cluster.

More to come soon.

(http://i.imgur.com/N57Al7x.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/G7QyAxz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HBmsqoR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uxK9TTY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Dkp2xoe.jpg)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on May 20, 2017, 01:57:44 am
Short update: Here are a few new pics of the raspberry pi cluster.

More to come soon.

(http://i.imgur.com/N57Al7x.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/G7QyAxz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HBmsqoR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uxK9TTY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Dkp2xoe.jpg)

That's what I am talking about!  Sweet setup!  Looking like a mini city in there!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dotcommie on June 18, 2017, 03:34:05 am
Hey George, I keep forgetting to come here instead of BTCtalk, but those updates are great. Do you have any more updates for us?


Also, have you talked or collaborated with the Blocknet guys in the past?  You're both working on similar things, but I'm curious to know how your plans differ compared to theirs. They're totally cool with any coin integrating with them, so I think maybe your current ideas will be easier to implement by simply using the p2p link through blocknet instead of the genesis block key stuff that clonecoins fail to change?  I'm thinking you may also have some good ideas for their dev, atcsecure, since you guys were basically the first ones to start working on these things.

Anyways, hope things are going well with the testing!
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on June 20, 2017, 12:51:20 pm
You're both working on similar things, ...

No, we are not.

BTW, the only other coin I would want to participate in is Bitcoin.  ;)

The only exception to that are other SpreadX11 based coins, ... once they appear I will be willing to cooperate with them.  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dotcommie on June 24, 2017, 01:25:55 am
You're both working on similar things, ...

No, we are not.

BTW, the only other coin I would want to participate in is Bitcoin.  ;)

The only exception to that are other SpreadX11 based coins, ... once they appear I will be willing to cooperate with them.  8)

Well I meant similar in that you're both focusing on networking. Just seemed like maybe a good fit.

Anyways, do you have any plans for an update on activities or where you're seeing this go in the next months/years?  The btctalk thread misses you ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on June 24, 2017, 03:09:19 pm
Well I meant similar in that you're both focusing on networking.

Networking?  :o

The btctalk thread misses you ;)

I'm on the bitcointalk forum everyday, just mostly spending time reading up on technical stuff.

I will address questions about spreadcoin, mining spreadcoin and the tools I'm working on,
but I am not interested in Helium (HLM) and other coins that are being constantly thrown around (as you just demonstrated).
Those have nothing to do with my work or spreadcoin.

BTW, if you want updates about what I am working on, just read my recent posts, for example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.msg19039841#msg19039841
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dotcommie on June 25, 2017, 11:54:28 am
Well I meant similar in that you're both focusing on networking.

Networking?  :o

The btctalk thread misses you ;)

I'm on the bitcointalk forum everyday, just mostly spending time reading up on technical stuff.

I will address questions about spreadcoin, mining spreadcoin and the tools I'm working on,
but I am not interested in Helium (HLM) and other coins that are being constantly thrown around (as you just demonstrated).
Those have nothing to do with my work or spreadcoin.

BTW, if you want updates about what I am working on, just read my recent posts, for example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.msg19039841#msg19039841

In a general sense, yeah. I meant focusing on everything flowing like in your roadmap pic on the left there. I guess I'm not clear on the current vision then despite following and mining spread from day 1, but I'll dig through everything again and see if I can get a better understanding of it all then ;)

I don't remember if the Pi pics and whatnot were posted in btctalk thread, so i may share them over there now that there are more eyes on SPR currently due to price action. (Just popping in over there would make the actual fans of you and Spread a lot more confident in spread's future though, that's all I'm sayin in that regard.)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on June 25, 2017, 03:16:15 pm
In a general sense, yeah.

Yes, lots of stuff needs to change.
I'm not saying that I'm happy with how things are right now.
There are too many loose ends everywhere, forum needs to be updated, website still references old stuff etc..

And as if that wasn't enough, we have an ongoing Altcoin-Bubble and ICO-Mania that distorts everything,
and god knows what maneuvers the HLM-people (who own an insane amount of SPR) will do to influence the price of Spreadcoin, lol.
It's gonna be a wild ride, ...

Everybody be careful.

Meanwhile I'm working on solutions.
More to come soon.  :D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dotcommie on June 25, 2017, 04:00:08 pm
In a general sense, yeah.

Yes, lots of stuff needs to change.
I'm not saying that I'm happy with how things are right now.
There are too many loose ends everywhere, forum needs to be updated, website still references old stuff etc..

And as if that wasn't enough, we have an ongoing Altcoin-Bubble and ICO-Mania that distorts everything,
and god knows what maneuvers the HLM-people (who own an insane amount of SPR) will do to influence the price of Spreadcoin, lol.
It's gonna be a wild ride, ...

Everybody be careful.

Meanwhile I'm working on solutions.
More to come soon.  :D

Great to hear man. Every update you give is great when you give it, some people just expect them more often in order to stick with a coin. 

I personally don't care as long as I know the devs are actually working on it. Like Blocknet for example. Everyone assumed there wasn't much going on for a while cause the dev was working and not updating much, but then they got a guy to very occasionally update btctalk or answer questions and people started trickling back in. It appeared to many people that not much was happening for 1-2 years when the thread wasn't too active, but now they've almost got 90% of it completed.

I'll still be here patiently waiting regardless of updates, so take your time and release when it's ready 8)  I do have more free time now though so if you need help with any of that information/marketing/etc stuff you mentioned, I'm good with that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on June 26, 2017, 08:47:39 am
I'll still be here patiently waiting regardless of updates, so take your time and release when it's ready 8) ...

Great.

Meanwhile we have a net hashrate of 6 GH/s.
That's a new all time high.  8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: kraterion on June 26, 2017, 06:01:00 pm
Everything went down but not SPR ;D
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: TornCr on June 27, 2017, 02:24:33 am
Hello all! I'm new to mining and want to join the mining SpreadCoin. Prompt, please, where can I get information on how to configure your miner and start mining SpreadCoin?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on June 27, 2017, 01:56:25 pm
Hello all! I'm new to mining and want to join the mining SpreadCoin. Prompt, please, where can I get information on how to configure your miner and start mining SpreadCoin?

I suggest you watch this tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhDzpiBLDcA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: TornCr on June 29, 2017, 10:04:44 pm
Thank you. ;) All files downloaded, wallet synchronization with network. Question: how to set the bat file to Nnidia, as in video settings for AMD miner.
I have since run there is a error:
[2017-06-30 00:59:36] 1 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2017-06-30 00:59:38] HTTP request failed: Failed connect to 127.0.0.1:41677; No error
[2017-06-30 00:59:38] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2017-06-30 01:10:47] HTTP request failed: Failed connect to 127.0.0.1:41677; No error
[2017-06-30 01:10:47] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2017-06-30 01:11:19] HTTP request failed: Failed connect to 127.0.0.1:41677; No error
[2017-06-30 01:11:19] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2017-06-30 01:14:49] HTTP request failed: The requested URL returned error: 500 Internal Server Error
[2017-06-30 01:14:49] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2017-06-30 01:15:20] HTTP request failed: The requested URL returned error: 500 Internal Server Error
[2017-06-30 01:15:25] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds.............
Tell me, what's wrong?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on June 30, 2017, 12:13:32 am
Set your bat file up like this:

Code: [Select]
spreadminer -o http://127.0.0.1:41677 -u XXX -p YYY
where XXX is your rpcusername, and YYY is your rpcpassword as you defined them in your spreadcoin.conf file, which should look something like this:

Code: [Select]
rpcuser=XXX
rpcpassword=YYY
rpcport=41677
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
server=1
listen=1
miningprivkey=<YOUR_PRIV_KEY>

if that still doesn't solve the problem, see if your firewall is blocking the port.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: TornCr on July 02, 2017, 08:49:33 pm
Thank you. Ports opened, the miner earned. There was a following problem: system cannot found the file: MSVCR100.dll Tell me, please, what to do?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on July 03, 2017, 12:49:12 pm
You don't have Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package installed.

Download it for 32 or 64 bit (depending on your system) here:

32 bit:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-in/download/details.aspx?id=5555

64bit:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=14632
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dt8666 on July 07, 2017, 01:37:59 am
Any one can help here:

1. I downloaded the wallet and run it and it has gone thru last 10 hrs sync up the network.
2. now I see the status is 0 hours behind

But the bar still shows message synchronising network......
and the wallet and also the network on top also show out of sync.

Any step I am missing?

FYI, I started using CPU to mine and it is producing some SPR as immature now, so the mining seems ok. Not sure what else is missing on the sync part.
I did not encrypt the wallet yet
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: hanskan on July 07, 2017, 04:26:48 am
made an exeption for miner in firewall, still get this

2 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2017-07-07 12:22:42] HTTP request failed: Failed connect to 127.0.0.1:41677; No error
[2017-07-07 12:22:42] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds

How to fix it ?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: raghathol on July 07, 2017, 06:23:39 am
I have 5 rigs in the same lan.
Can i point them to the same wallet (same ip) so that i have a kind of "mini solo pool"?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on July 07, 2017, 12:47:17 pm
made an exeption for miner in firewall, still get this

2 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2017-07-07 12:22:42] HTTP request failed: Failed connect to 127.0.0.1:41677; No error
[2017-07-07 12:22:42] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds

How to fix it ?

Did you set the rpc port in the spreadcoin.conf file?

rpcport=41677
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on July 07, 2017, 12:59:37 pm
I have 5 rigs in the same lan.
Can i point them to the same wallet (same ip) so that i have a kind of "mini solo pool"?

Yes, you can point multiple computers/rigs to just one wallet in your LAN.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: hanskan on July 08, 2017, 12:23:27 am
made an exeption for miner in firewall, still get this

2 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2017-07-07 12:22:42] HTTP request failed: Failed connect to 127.0.0.1:41677; No error
[2017-07-07 12:22:42] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds

How to fix it ?



Did you set the rpc port in the spreadcoin.conf file?

rpcport=41677


I did
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on July 08, 2017, 12:39:36 am
made an exeption for miner in firewall, still ....

Did you also make an exception for wallet?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: EvilMonkey on July 10, 2017, 08:15:59 am
I have 5 rigs in the same lan.
Can i point them to the same wallet (same ip) so that i have a kind of "mini solo pool"?

Yes, you can point multiple computers/rigs to just one wallet in your LAN.

Anyone have a link or instructions oh how to do this.  I found one earlier but lost it ug.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: pokeytex on July 11, 2017, 11:22:57 am
I have 5 rigs in the same lan.
Can i point them to the same wallet (same ip) so that i have a kind of "mini solo pool"?

Yes, you can point multiple computers/rigs to just one wallet in your LAN.

Anyone have a link or instructions oh how to do this.  I found one earlier but lost it ug.

Hello you must point all of the rigs to your wallet(computer) ip address.  Also, if you have more than (5) rigs you must increase the rpcthreads by typing - rpcthreads=n (n = the number of rigs you have).  Put that in your spreadcoin.conf file.  Hope that helps you.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: Santa32 on August 08, 2017, 04:04:41 am
Any one can help here:

1. I downloaded the wallet and run it and it has gone thru last 10 hrs sync up the network.
2. now I see the status is 0 hours behind

But the bar still shows message synchronising network......
and the wallet and also the network on top also show out of sync.

Any step I am missing?

FYI, I started using CPU to mine and it is producing some SPR as immature now, so the mining seems ok. Not sure what else is missing on the sync part.
I did not encrypt the wallet yet

I would also like to know the answer. Also, how long should it normally take to sync the blockchain?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on August 08, 2017, 03:41:53 pm
Quote

2. now I see the status is 0 hours behind

But the bar still shows message synchronising network......
and the wallet and also the network on top also show out of sync.



Stuff like this can happen if your computer'clock is not showing the correct time.
If say your clock is off by an hour all the time, this offset might cause the wallet to always think she's not synched yet.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on August 08, 2017, 03:56:51 pm
Also, how long should it normally take to sync the blockchain?

There is no "normally".

Depends on your node, your internet connection, etc...

We don't have as many fast full nodes as I wish, so synching could definitely be faster.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on August 16, 2017, 10:00:11 am
Hm, there seems to be an issue with the blockexplorer at cryptoid, they haven't updated their data in 2 days.

(http://i.imgur.com/ulwvJH4.png?1)

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: KrugerX11 on August 25, 2017, 01:26:38 pm
Hi,

I bought some coins and transferred them to my wallet on Spreadcoin-QT.

Now the Spreadcoin-qt program shows out of synq the whole time without showing my coins.

Please help.

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on August 25, 2017, 02:08:20 pm
what block height does your wallet show?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: KrugerX11 on August 25, 2017, 02:21:17 pm
what block height does your wallet show?

It shows 82122 block count but it is not going higher or synqing any further.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: KrugerX11 on August 25, 2017, 02:22:04 pm
what block height does your wallet show?

It shows 82122 block count but it is not going higher or synqing any further.
no block source available
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on August 25, 2017, 02:28:28 pm
delete your blockchain data (except your wallet.data) and restart your wallet.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: KrugerX11 on August 25, 2017, 02:51:13 pm
delete your blockchain data (except your wallet.data) and restart your wallet.

i am feeling really stupid because i only see .dll files in the directory.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on August 25, 2017, 03:21:34 pm
Not that folder.... the data folder, usually to be found at C:\Users\<your_user_name>\AppData\Roaming\SpreadCoin if you are on windows.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: KrugerX11 on August 25, 2017, 03:28:43 pm
thanks.

under the blocks folder there is a  blk00000.dat and rev0000.dat file as well as an addresses and index folder.

which do i delete?
 
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: KrugerX11 on August 25, 2017, 03:41:25 pm
i see it is synchronizing wit the network now.

Hopefully it will work.

thanks for your help
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: freegold on August 29, 2017, 08:34:24 pm
Hi I'm new here and a friend told me to buy and hold spr for some kind of snapshot before spr changes. Can someone explain this to me?

thanks :)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: NilMag on August 30, 2017, 06:47:22 pm
Hi all

Back in the game again. Was mining in late 2014 and early 2015 and started again today.
I knew I saved my wallet somewhere and I found it yesterday. Not able to unlock yet, as it seems I have develeoped slight altzheimer on that subject.

But still nice to see that SPR is up from 18000 Satoshi 63800 in the time i have done other things, mainly work and gamin...

NilMag
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: TornCr on September 13, 2017, 12:34:17 am
Hello! Collected on 1080TI miner started miner, and as a result here such error: Please help resiti problem.
 
  *** Spreadminer 0.1 - a SpreadX11 miner for nVidia GPUs ***
           based on ccminer 1.2 Copyright 2014 Christian Buchner, Christian H.
           based on pooler-cpuminer 2.3.2 (c) 2010 Jeff Garzik, 2012 pooler
           SpreadX11 additions by tsiv
[2017-09-13 03:30:48] 7 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2017-09-13 03:32:50] GPU #3: found a solution, nonce $000F4240
[2017-09-13 03:32:54] GPU #3: result for nonce $000F4240 does not validate on CPU!
[2017-09-13 03:32:56] GPU #0: found a solution, nonce $000F4240
[2017-09-13 03:32:56] GPU #2: found a solution, nonce $000F4240
[2017-09-13 03:32:59] GPU #2: result for nonce $000F4240 does not validate on CPU!
[2017-09-13 03:33:03] GPU #0: result for nonce $000F4240 does not validate on CPU!

Please help resiti problem.

Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: TornCr on September 13, 2017, 01:47:43 am
Thanks, the reason found out. Helped downgrade the driver to 384.76 382.53! 8) ;)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: TornCr on September 13, 2017, 09:31:49 pm
Want to set up mining 5 miners on the same network in one wallet. 8) Do I need to run the wallet for each miner? It is necessary or not to create a wallet address and specify the configuration file the private key to that address?  :-\
Here's my main miner file config:
  rpcuser=rpcuser
  rpcpassword=rpcpass
  rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
  rpcallowip=192.168.*.*
  rpcport=41677
  port=41678
  rpcthreads=5
  ngen=0
  server=1
  listen=1
Here's my main miner bat file:
  spreadminer -o http://127.0.0.1:41677 -u rpcuser -p rpcpass
Tell me how to configure the bat file and the config file for this purpose on other miners? ::)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: TornCr on September 17, 2017, 09:22:20 pm
Understood. :) In bat file you need to change to: spreadminer -o http://192.168.*(0 or 1 depending on the router).*(the address where the miner's purse):41677 it works! 8)
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: slug on September 24, 2017, 09:42:31 am
Any updates Georgem?
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: georgem on September 24, 2017, 02:14:09 pm
Any updates Georgem?

Working on it. Also waiting for the HLM "spectacle" to pass by first.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: sdkeller2 on October 04, 2017, 03:06:37 am
Hey so I downloaded the SPR wallet and was in the process of updating it. My computer died before I could finish.
Now I cant get the wallet to load on my computer. I had a back up saved. Is there a way to access this wallet on my other computer?

Someone please help me
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dREAMsHOT on October 09, 2017, 09:38:14 am
Hello all ! Im new to SPR aka SpreadCoin and Im having trouble with syncing my wallet... If anyone is nice enough to link a download link that would be great!

Thank you for ur time !

Regards

Zdravko B.
Title: Re: Main discussion thread (similar to BCT)
Post by: dREAMsHOT on October 09, 2017, 10:38:14 am
Hello all ! Im new to SPR aka SpreadCoin and Im having trouble with syncing my wallet... If anyone is nice enough to link a download link that would be great!

Thank you for ur time !

Regards

Zdravko B.

Found blockchain download link here in the forums but it wasnt the latest.Replaced the files it syniced but its 24 weeks behind and It cant connect to the network :(

Edit:It connected ^.^


Link to the blockchain post ( http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=773.0 ) were u can find the link for downloading it ! to any new comers that dont wanna wait that long !