SpreadcoinTalk
Spreadcoin => Main Development => Topic started by: georgem on February 10, 2015, 03:52:22 pm
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Please let's have a vote, how we are finally going to resolve this mess.
What I like about the old original thread, is that it was started by Mr. Spread, it is original and has the history of the last 6 months in it. That's invaluable.
Who cares about the trolls, just ignore them, and keep discussing important stuff.
What I like about the new thread, is that it is clean. But what I absolutely hate about it, that it makes us look fake with a name like "Spreadcoin_" and with the notion that we constantly have to explain ourselves why we need a self-moderation process.
In this poll, you will be allowed to vote twice, and even change your votes.
If you are undecided, you can vote for both or none. :)
Let's resolve this once and for all.
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Another positive thing about the old thread is, that it is being pushed to the front of the altcoin-threads all the time, making it visible to newcomers at BCT.
I much prefer an overactive thread that is troll-infested but keeps everybody talking about us, than a new self-moderated thread that makes everybody doubt our intentions.
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Voted the moderated thread. I see no advantage to letting idiots waste my time.
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Voted the moderated thread. I see no advantage to letting idiots waste my time.
Yeah, if you let them.
If you use "Ignore" everybody could continue the discussion without problem.
What we just have to do is talk to everybody who thinks it's a great idea to continuously quote and answer the trolls.
Look, how come Darkcoin has survived MONTHS of constant trolling, but we weaklings need self-moderation? >:(
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Voted the moderated thread. I see no advantage to letting idiots waste my time.
Yeah, if you let them.
If you use "Ignore" everybody could continue the discussion without problem.
What we just have to do is talk to everybody who thinks it's a great idea to continuously quote and answer the trolls.
Look, how come Darkcoin has survived MONTHS of constant trolling, but we weaklings need self-moderation? >:(
I would have preferred that the DRK thread be moderated too. There's nothing weak about kicking your enemies where it hurts them. :D
How weak is it that you think Spread needs constant thread bumpage by morons on BCT?
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How weak is it that you think Spread needs constant thread bumpage by morons on BCT?
I didn't say that I think that Spread NEEDS the thread bumpage. But there is no such thing like bad publicity. In a way I like it that trolls attack us, it proves that we must be doing something right.
It keeps everybody discussing: Are pools possible? How can we prevent them? Such an important field of discussion, and spreadcoin is in the middle of it. :)
Most of the 300 pages of the old thread have valuable information, with our dev being the original thread-starter.
I now think that it is really stupid and dangerous to give that up.
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I created spreacointalk to allow for an ordered clean information gathering regarding spreadcoin.
The original thread over at BCT maybe doesn't need to fullfil this function. It just needs to be our portal to the most active altcoin gathering place on the planet.
We should be careful how we want our first impression be to newcomers.
It's not a shame to have trolls attack you.
But I now believe that stifling free speech (with our self-moderation thread) will completely back-fire and it's like we are shooting ourselves in the foot with this.
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First there must be a closing date/time for the voting.
We can express our views and cast out vote. BUT ultimate decision should be made by Mr. Spread.
Once Mr. Spread makes his decision, discussion on this topic should ceased.
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First there must be a closing date/time for the voting.
We can express our views and cast out vote. BUT ultimate decision should be made by Mr. Spread.
Once Mr. Spread makes his decision, discussion on this topic should ceased.
Absolutely.
I haven't heard Mr. Spread make his final decision. I don't doubt that he gave MyFarm the permission to start the new thread. But still... he was practically in a disabled mode (banned, working on more important things, etc..) while he has made that decision, so... I need an official statement coming from his own BCT account, to make this crystalclear.
From that moment on I will just go where he goes. No problem with that.
And I hope that no one here gets mad at me for doing this.
We just need a final clarification, it's just that we REALLY should understand what effect our decision will have.
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We should absolutely stay with the self-moderated thread. Wasting our time with trolls removes our focus. There is nothing wrong with having the means to remove trolling and FUD. If we were to remove legit, critical posts, THAT would be the issue. I want free speech but free speech does not protect you if you yell, "Fire" in a crowded theater when there is no fire. The trolls are currently and will forever yell fire and we have a right to remove that. If people say our movie sucks and they have legit reasons for that assertion, those posts should not be deleted.
There are far too many coins that Spreadcoin threatens for us not to have a moderated thread.
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First there must be a closing date/time for the voting.
Closing date is Mr. Spreads first post we see at BCT in the next few hours.
Whichever thread he posts in, is the thread that should stay alive. IMHO.
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We should absolutely stay with the self-moderated thread. Wasting our time with trolls removes our focus. There is nothing wrong with having the means to remove trolling and FUD. If we were to remove legit, critical posts, THAT would be the issue. I want free speech but free speech does not protect you if you yell, "Fire" in a crowded theater when there is no fire. The trolls are currently and will forever yell fire and we have a right to remove that. If people say our movie sucks and they have legit reasons for that assertion, those posts should not be deleted.
There are far too many coins that Spreadcoin threatens for us not to have a moderated thread.
I understand your points, I really believed in those points too just until yesterday.
Today I think that the ignore-feature is enough to have us normal people continue an ordered discussion at BCT. Darkcoin managed to get rid of the trolls by strongly convincing everyone that the trolls should not be quoted or talked to.
We didn't do that, instead I have seen many people (who should know better) constantly quoting and repeating the trolls, which is what enabled their shit-storm in the first place.
If we can't get order in our original thread WITHOUT coercive measures (having the means to just silence whoever we wish) it makes us look SO CENTRALIZED, and then it is just sad...
... just sad...
... to be the coin that strives to be DECENTRALIZED while we use self-moderation.
This is just wrong. 8)
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MyFarm, you started this thread:
"When Mr. Spread is unbanned from BTC Talk I suggest we start a moderated ..." (http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60.0)
and seeing that we didn't wait for Mr. Spread to be unbanned but instead we made the very hasty decision to accelerate things and just start a new thread...
... this makes me believe that we are not in control here, but always acting in "zugzwang" (to borrow a chess-term)... it's like we don't have the freedom to decide our next step voluntarily, but are always forced to do something. Exactly as intended by the coordinated trolls.
That's why I say we need to reevaluate our decision.
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But I now believe that stifling free speech (with our self-moderation thread) will completely back-fire and it's like we are shooting ourselves in the foot with this.
Bollocks. The trolls are welcome to exercise their right to 'free speech' somewhere else.
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But I now believe that stifling free speech (with our self-moderation thread) will completely back-fire and it's like we are shooting ourselves in the foot with this.
Bollocks. The trolls are welcome to exercise their right to 'free speech' somewhere else.
We should let them exercise their freedom. Freedom works both ways.
Your freedom comes from your own decision if you want to answer the trolls or even READ their posts.
We can handle this, like darkcoin.
The cool thing about competition is that we can always learn from them how they have solved problems we haven't yet.
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Unmoderated, easily...if you need to have productive discussion, just do it here. Self-moderation ANN threads have a big scam stigma.
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Unmoderated, easily...if you need to have productive discussion, just do it here. Self-moderation ANN threads have a big scam stigma.
Absolutely.
Let's remove that stigma, and return to the dirty troll infested way every coin has to walk on... let's not be "different" as far as that goes...
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THIS IS SPREADCOIN! >:(
Let's take our 300 page thread back!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=715435.new#new
(http://i.imgur.com/wZCykNc.jpg)
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Must differentiate Free Speech and Terrorism.
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MyFarm, you started this thread:
"When Mr. Spread is unbanned from BTC Talk I suggest we start a moderated ..." (http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60.0)
and seeing that we didn't wait for Mr. Spread to be unbanned but instead we made the very hasty decision to accelerate things and just start a new thread...
... this makes me believe that we are not in control here, but always acting in "zugzwang" (to borrow a chess-term)... it's like we don't have the freedom to decide our next step voluntarily, but are always forced to do something. Exactly as intended by the coordinated trolls.
That's why I say we need to reevaluate our decision.
The trolling was getting so bad I PM'd Mr. Spread and asked him if he'd like me to create a new thread and he said yes. I posted a screenshot of that conversation.
Make no mistake, the reason the trolling has decreased in the original thread is because of the new thread. The trolling WILL come back and we'll have to wade through countless piles of shit.
There will be no scam stigma for Spreadcoin because the technology will speak for itself. Vaporwear self-moderated threads are something different. Self-moderated where hard questions are allowed and the dev is releasing top quality code is obviously not a scam to anyone with half a brain. Everyone understands BCT is a fucking cesspool.
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Must differentiate Free Speech and Terrorism.
Governments are working hard these days to make "Free Speech" = "Terrorism"...
But if you really want to differentiate between these two, then you NEED free speech.
Let the troll show what a troll he is, let him show his foul tongue so that everybody can recognize him for what he is.
Nothing exposes peoples real intentions more than them exercising free speech.
8)
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Make no mistake, the reason the trolling has decreased in the original thread is because of the new thread. The trolling WILL come back and we'll have to wade through countless piles of shit.
There will be no scam stigma for Spreadcoin because the technology will speak for itself. Vaporwear self-moderated threads are something different. Self-moderated where hard questions are allowed and the dev is releasing top quality code is obviously not a scam to anyone with half a brain. Everyone understands BCT is a fucking cesspool.
The good thing about the trolls is, they are easily spotted and ignored.
Ofcourse they will come back.
The question is how will we handle them this time?
I want to see us overcome this sickness in a healthy way, without the need to amputate one of our limbs (100% free speech for everybody) to achieve that goal.
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I also think we should get back to the original thread.
We must not get provoked, and reply to all the fudd, you can also ignore someone for a while.
But difficult questions need to be aswered. And a dialog must be open.
A moderated thread does not do this enough I guess.
This is our thread! Lets take matters back into our hands.
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Mr. Spread is back!
He heard our war cries!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=715435.msg10419469#msg10419469
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"At one point we had so many people harassing us that we couldn't discuss SPR without someone trying to destroy what we said. It made productivity impossible. Someone else created a separate thread (which is moderated) so that we could remain productive without people attempting to manipulate price through slander."
This will be my only next to last post (with one clarification post ) regarding the old and new threads...
I am a FIRM believer in keeping the mod thread and letting this one go.
Just because YOU "ignored" them, just means that YOU didn't see all the TRASH and BS they were leaving around unchallenged. It didn't stop any new people interested in SPR from getting SLAMMED with all that crap. The ONLY reason it stopped is because of the modded thread.
And IF you delete the modded thread, who's to say they wont start up the sock puppet trash generation campaign again tomorrow, or next week, or next month... Whenever they want to kill the price again which is EXACTLY what they intended and succeeded in doing the last time. We didn't defeat shit. They stopped because they couldn't get to us anymore because their crap was not allowed to persist in the modded thread. The only reason they stopped is because they lost control.
Any argument about "modded thread making the coin look weak", "laughing stock BS", "not knowing how to deal with trolls", etc is a straw argument... The only reason it exists is because a modded thread wasn't created in the first place... What are we? Pre-Schoolers on the playground believing that the bully that beat the crap out of us for fun has been reformed and won't be a bully tomorrow? Ever heard the story of the Frog and the Scorpion trying to get across the river? Don't fall for it. Keep the modded thread and keep it professional.
It will stand up for itself as people see that the difficult issues are NOT modded, only the trash.
Save what you want from this thread and then kill it.
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Just because YOU "ignored" them, just means that YOU didn't see all the TRASH and BS they were leaving around unchallenged. It didn't stop any new people interested in SPR from getting SLAMMED with all that crap.
Why do you see the need to protect the newcomers from being slammed with crap?
Who made you their "protector"?
Do you think the newcomers are like children, and they need to be protected from the bad world out there?
That's the old fallacy of giving up your freedom for a little security. That's completely antithetical to what DECENTRALIZATION stands for.
The ONLY reason it stopped is because of the modded thread.
Wrong!
The only reason they stopped is because they succeeded in making us bow to their demands.
LMAO they made us leave our own home thread, for crying out loud!!! >:(
This all feels like a nightmare that is finally over...
Listen: in the whole history of BCT there has NEVER been an endless troll-attack that just went on and on forever.
Trolls don't work like that. They want fast success, they choose easy targets... They want you to do their bidding, and then they leave.
Trolls only leave when...
a) they succeed!
b) they find an easier target!
c) they realize that they will not succeed!
And IF you delete the modded thread, who's to say they wont start up the sock puppet trash generation campaign again tomorrow, or next week, or next month... Whenever they want to kill the price again which is EXACTLY what they intended and succeeded in doing the last time. We didn't defeat shit. They stopped because they couldn't get to us anymore because their crap was not allowed to persist in the modded thread. The only reason they stopped is because they lost control.
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I don't care what happens with the modded thread, what a red herring argument.
What we should care about is what happens with our original 300 page thread started by the dev himself, a thread grown thru the participation of a caring community over the period of many months.
Let the trolls come!
Give them nothing!
Any argument about "modded thread making the coin look weak", "laughing stock BS", "not knowing how to deal with trolls", etc is a straw argument... The only reason it exists is because a modded thread wasn't created in the first place... What are we? Pre-Schoolers on the playground believing that the bully that beat the crap out of us for fun has been reformed and won't be a bully tomorrow? Ever heard the story of the Frog and the Scorpion trying to get across the river? Don't fall for it. Keep the modded thread and keep it professional.
It will stand up for itself as people see that the difficult issues are NOT modded, only the trash.
Care to explain why darkcoin and hundreds of other coins SURVIVED the continuous troll attacks, and are now standing strong?
Based on your logic they shouldn't have succeeded, because the constant trolling would have destroyed their un-moderated threads, right?
.... but this didn't happen!
It never does!
In the end it never does! ;D
If others were able to handle the trolls, why shouldn't we succeed too?
Save what you want from this thread and then kill it.
That's curious.. You are the first one who is supposedly part of our community who I hear demanding that we should "kill" our original thread!
Why do you want to kill it? I mean I would have assumed that you self-moderators where thinking about maybe locking it at some point in time, but killing it?
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Have just read everyone's for and against arguments.
I'm for keeping the old thread and deleting the new one.
The troll-fest is a clear sign that Spread has something for people to worry about. The key is for people to not engage with the FUDsters apart from an initial rebuttal of their lies or innuendo. It's the constant back and forth tit-for-tat interaction with them that fills the thread up with crap. Many Spread people are engaging just way too much (and there's one guy that writes the most unbelievably verbose posts that take way more time to read than the FUD posts plus he gets absolutely "hooked" by them again and again which just throws fuel on the fire and keeps them motivated).
I think a censored thread isn't the right message to be putting out there. Gerogem's comments on what makes trolls stay versus what makes them give up and leave are spot on. Ignoring them is the key, even when they're plastering never ending lies; they just can't stand being ignored, but that is what eventually stops them. And, sure, there'll be a noob or two that takes it all in and misunderstand what's true about Spread, but that's the nature of BCT and the advantages of having an unmoderated thread versus a censored one are many.
I'm continuing to read both threads each day but it would be nice to just have the single original one to go to, FUD and all.
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I think we should all agree to use the Old Thread but keep the new thread. Perhaps the trolls will stay at bay because they have no clue what is going on.
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Keep them both. Time will tell which one gets used more.
I agree that we need free speech but organized fud is outside of that debate especially within a community that is growing.
Edit to add - I didn't vote and see no need to. Let the free market decide...; )
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Ok.
Let me try to clarify a few things before letting the chips fall where they may...
1) I don't consider this a "game." There are real dollars and lots of time invested in the outcome of this project.
2) "Who made you their "protector"? Do you think the newcomers are like children, and they need to be protected from the bad world out there? That's the old fallacy of giving up your freedom for a little security. That's completely antithetical to what DECENTRALIZATION stands for."
It isn't so much about "protecting" anyone as it is being able to put our best foot forward at all times... If you are inviting people to your house, don't you like to keep it welcoming, neat, and presentable? If you are driving down the street shopping for a house, what draws your attention first, the condemned looking place with weeds all over the place, or the nice lived in looking place next door with the neat and tidy yard? If you have money to invest in real estate, do you go looking for properties in the ghetto, or in a more hospitable, less crime ridden part of the city more conducive to people and commerce? If your shopping for a car, and you have two of the same make, model and relative price, which one do you seriously look at first, the one with a salvage title that looks as if it's never been washed with bald tires and drops of oil under the engine, or the one that is clean as a whistle, was one owner garage kept, and has a a clear title?
Keeping the new thread should be just as obvious...
Seriously, why waste the time and effort over a ridiculous and ongoing battle of fud and sockpuppets that never needs to be fought again? Don't we all have better things to do than wasting our time and energy on an aggravation that shouldn't be there to begin with?
Unless you feel this is just some game or hobby for fun and kicks, we should want to have the ability to manage "OUR" assets as much as possible... Just because we CAN moderate doesn't mean we WILL moderate all the time or for no reason. Its no different than being able to take care of your house. Personally, I don't want the situation where a bunch of clowns that are supposedly our "community friends" are putting on masks (making themselves more anonymous than they already are), coming into our house and taking a dump in the middle of our living room floor and smearing doodoo all over the place, and NOT be able to clean up the mess. WE have to live here, They don't... What skin is it off their back to come into our house and make a mess of the place whenever they wish, knowing that WE can't do anything about it. A Modded thread addresses that issue.
Please don't give me a load kaka about freedoms and decentralization, blah, blah... NONE of these forums are truly "free." The are all owned and modded to some extent by somebody... These forums are modded by the BCT crew whether we like it or not. Where is the freedom in that? Not to mention that the way they left all the sock puppets alone to wreak havoc in our thread and then BANNED Mr. Spread for a simple post about distributing "fake" coins for a seriously important test leads me to believe that one or more of them might be pretty partial to DRK for one reason or the other...
"They made us leave our own home" and "Why did Drk and hundred other coins survive blah blah blah...
First of all, WHO THE HELL FRIGGIN CARES? I mean besides people with questionable values and\or motives to begin with?
Its a forum thread!
A forum thread that has no purpose but to centralize information for discussion. When the signal to noise ratio is so bad that it cannot perform that function, what value is there? Discussions from 6 months ago? Other than information that can easily be updated to the OP, its all old news that doesn't really matter today.
Spread is so relatively young, do you honestly think the war is over? This relatively peaceful break is nothing more than a lull. Other than some sort of childish misplaced bravado about "taking it back'" so "WE CAN WIN!" (false), "It was our home!" etc... Seriously? Are we really generating some kind of emotional feelings of value, ownership, and pride over a forum thread? A thread that was so easily manipulated into such a pile of trash that even the founder of the thread agreed to a modded alternative? I hope you guys aren't gamblers! That is one heck of a mindset for losing your shirt. Never let your emotions determine your actions! NONE of this should be personal.
That said, what is the point of keeping it? So we can fight the same battle all over again, and again, and again?!?!?! As soon as we close or get rid of the modded thread, we are right back in the same leaky boat we just escaped from, are vulnerable again, and WILL be attacked again. It's not a matter of if, but when... We would have to be incredibly naive and be a gluttons for punishment to go back.
The only people that want us to NOT have a modded thread other than those of questionable priorities, are those that fully intend and will take advantage of the situation again in the future. It would be one thing if everyone HAD to use a single account, but it just isn't a fair fight with the sock puppet terrorism. The coin, the developer, the community, and the restrained modding practices will easily nullify any censorship or "scammy" feelings a modded thread might incite.
And as far as DRK and all the others that "survived" with open forums? Again, who cares about them? We should care about Spread. Whatever they did then was then, this is now. Please tell me that you did participate with the rest of us throughout the 2014 summer of scam, scammers, and shitcoins? It is rather obvious that the community has been expanding quite a bit (not even counting all the extra sock puppets lol!) over the last year, and what was a manageable problem then, just isn't so easily managed now with the bigger community and the bogus accounts that can and are being created just for nefarious purposes.
Bottom line, I just don't see the value or ROI in going back. I think we should move forward with our NEW house focusing on important matters rather than our past, including the old "termite infested house" of a thread that has no real world value other than as a tool with which to manipulate and attack us with again sometime in the future.
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Well,
let's agree that our home is spreadcointalk.
It's our house, built by spreaders for spreaders.
And everyone who sees a future for spreadcoin and wants to help build that future is welcome here.
But we are just a renter at BCT, and the landlord and people there are crazy.... we shouldn't take what happens there too seriously.
BCT is a meat grinder.... you don't try and create a "cosy livingroom" there... that would be silly.
It's a jungle, plain and simple.
Therefor it is futile to try and create a "clean environment" at BCT... that is completely besides the point.
Come here to spreadcointalk for cleanness and order.
And go to BCT for a chaotic exchange of ideas and sentiments....
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Both parties are calling the other party trolls. So which party is trolls? I predict meaningful discussions/comments will be buried in the next 300 pages of old thread.
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Both parties are calling the other party trolls. So which party is trolls? I predict meaningful discussions/comments will be buried in the next 300 pages of old thread.
I predict meaningful discussions/comments will be buried in the next 300 pages of old thread.
But that's okay duboisi. Like georgem is saying, we can do that here. BCT is a jungle where ideas can fly up down, backwards, sideways, inside out all while be admired, attacked, loved, hated, worshipped, scorned. Sometimes the most hideous environments are the place where new people will find you. That's what BCT's for. As an example, I found out about Darkcoin on the BTC-e trollbox early last year. They were all mocking it and calling it "Dork". That led me to searching for it and now I'm here. So these hostile and nasty environments serve a purpose too.
The most important thing is to remember there will always be trolls and FUDsters. While it's important to correct their blatant lies and mud slinging once or twice, it's the continual interaction with them that does the real damage. Just letting them do their stuff and remaining dignified and above it, actually advertises the substance involved. Not reacting and getting "hooked" into their web of hostility is the key.
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As an example, I found out about Darkcoin on the BTC-e trollbox early last year. They were all mocking it and calling it "Dork". That led me to searching for it and now I'm here. So these hostile and nasty environments serve a purpose too.
As an aside, that is kind of a fun story. I ditched watching the trollbox quite a bit before DRK was on the scene (probably not before development began)...they were still talking about FTC...which I bought and sold a week later (thank gawd).
But thanks for letting me know that the BTC-E trollbox worked out for someone...: D
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The old thread is already controlled by Trolls now. It is a 100% waste of time to going with old one, new people looking into spreadcoin will get wrong information always with that thread. how old thread get 14 votes !!! strange.
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Voted for the moderated thread. The trolls are attacking again. >:(
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14 votes by trolls........
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Voted for the moderated thread. The trolls are attacking again. >:(
Mr. Spread has already made his decision by posting in the original thread.
But if you like to continue voting.... I will not close the poll.
But the thing is, nobody is voting for the original thread anymore, since we know that the voting has already been decided.
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Both parties are calling the other party trolls. So which party is trolls? I predict meaningful discussions/comments will be buried in the next 300 pages of old thread.
Do you really have to ask this question?
The trolls are those who hate spreadcoin, but are posting in our thread nonetheless.
If you hate a place, but are constantly hanging out there, YOU are the troll.
Simple.
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Voted for the moderated thread. The trolls are attacking again. >:(
Mr. Spread has already made his decision by posting in the original thread.
But if you like to continue voting.... I will not close the poll.
But the thing is, nobody is voting for the original thread anymore, since we know that the voting has already been decided.
But how do we fight fudders? I think they will be back if price is staring to grow. And they will crash it again.
Update: what's more important is that newcomers get misinformation readng their posts.
Update 2: Our community is not big enough yet to fight them without a moderated thread, I guess.
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Can we get a confirmation from Mr. Spread. Him simply posting in that thread is not confirmation enough. I'd like to see a final decision from him.
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Voted for the moderated thread. The trolls are attacking again. >:(
Mr. Spread has already made his decision by posting in the original thread.
But if you like to continue voting.... I will not close the poll.
But the thing is, nobody is voting for the original thread anymore, since we know that the voting has already been decided.
But how do we fight fudders? I think they will be back if price is staring to grow. And they will crash it again.
Update: what's more important is that newcomers get misinformation readng their posts.
Update 2: Our community is not big enough yet to fight them without a moderated thread, I guess.
We will fight fudders like every other coin too.
Just surviving and doing our own thing. Don't let the trolls dictate what way the discussion has to go.
Why are you not in the original thread posting important things about spreadcoin? 8)
I will be there, and I will keep on posting every day. And I will not communicate with the trolls.
I will only advice people who are not trolls, but who talk with trolls, to better start ignoring them.
Everybody here, help me in the main thread by including normal people in a meaningful discussion, and excluding the trolls from any discussion.
That's how we win.
8)
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And if Mr. Spread chooses the original thread, could we please make sure to post anything relevant to this forum as I don't have time to wade through the piles of bullshit in that thread and as such, won't be reading or posting in it.
Thanks.
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Can we get a confirmation from Mr. Spread. Him simply posting in that thread is not confirmation enough. I'd like to see a final decision from him.
Honestly, I think we should stop bothering Mr. Spread with our petty problems.
MyFarm, I say if you like the moderated thread, continue with it, nobody will stop you, spreadcoin is a decentralized coin with a decentralized team structure. Go for it.
Meanwhile, I will be in the main thread, the traditional thread, the one with 7 months of history, started by Mr. Spread, with a lot of information in it.
There is a reason the trolls attack us. 8)
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And if Mr. Spread chooses the original thread, could we please make sure to post anything relevant to this forum as I don't have time to wade through the piles of bullshit in that thread and as such, won't be reading or posting in it.
Thanks.
We are doing this already. Since day 1 this forum was started.
Or is there an important information you are missing?
Listen, don't EVER go to the main spreadcoin thread to find important informations!
Instead come here for the real deal.
Go to BCT to have some fun and action, and a lighthearted discussion.... :)
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Can we get a confirmation from Mr. Spread. Him simply posting in that thread is not confirmation enough. I'd like to see a final decision from him.
Honestly, I think we should stop bothering Mr. Spread with our petty problems.
Choosing which thread to use on the most important cryptocurrency forum is hardly petty.
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Can we get a confirmation from Mr. Spread. Him simply posting in that thread is not confirmation enough. I'd like to see a final decision from him.
Honestly, I think we should stop bothering Mr. Spread with our petty problems.
Choosing which thread to use on the most important cryptocurrency forum is hardly petty.
It is petty, because this whole notion that we need a second moderated thread was ignited by trolls in the first place.
First you need to prove that we have no other choice but to cripple ourselves, and do what no other important coin EVER has done before:
To start a self-moderated thread.
Really, show me another coin in the top 50 that has done that!!! ???
The truth is that there is absolutely no reason to do that, other than to harm ourselves.
8)
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I think the best thing would be to do what many of those top 50 coins have done and have their coinmarketcap.com linked discussion lead to their private forum.
1. Link coinmarketcap.com to here.
2. Create a new forum on here titled, "New to Spreadcoin? Learn about it here"
3. Create extremely useful about, FAQ, and guides for newbies in that forum.
4. Close the self-moderated thread if Mr. Spread doesn't want it.
5. Only use the bitcointalk thread to post updates and guide new people to here.
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I think the best thing would be to do what many of those top 50 coins have done and have their coinmarketcap.com linked discussion lead to their private forum.
1. Link coinmarketcap.com to here.
2. Create a new forum on here titled, "New to Spreadcoin? Learn about it here"
3. Create extremely useful about, FAQ, and guides for newbies in that forum.
4. Close the self-moderated thread if Mr. Spread doesn't want it.
5. Only use the bitcointalk thread to post updates and guide new people to here.
Those are all excellent points!
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I posted at the coinmarketcap-thread thread about point nr. 1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg10429003#msg10429003
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I think the best thing would be to do what many of those top 50 coins have done and have their coinmarketcap.com linked discussion lead to their private forum.
1. Link coinmarketcap.com to here.
2. Create a new forum on here titled, "New to Spreadcoin? Learn about it here"
3. Create extremely useful about, FAQ, and guides for newbies in that forum.
4. Close the self-moderated thread if Mr. Spread doesn't want it.
5. Only use the bitcointalk thread to post updates and guide new people to here.
Yes.
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I posted at the coinmarketcap-thread thread about point nr. 1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg10429003#msg10429003
Don't you think we should let Mr. Spread decide which direction he wants to take first?
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I posted at the coinmarketcap-thread thread about point nr. 1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg10429003#msg10429003
Don't you think we should let Mr. Spread decide which direction he wants to take first?
why? Is there an alternative to the spreadcointalk forum too? 8)
I told coinmarketcap to link the discussion to spreadcointalk.
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He may want coinmarketcap pointed to bitcointalk for now. Out of respect to him I think he should be asked.
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He may want coinmarketcap pointed to bitcointalk for now. Out of respect to him I think he should be asked.
Hey, it was your idea in the first place. But you are right, I will delete my post for now.
I am fine anyway that coinmarketcap links to the original BCT thread. 8)
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1. Link coinmarketcap.com to here.
Agree.
2. Create a new forum on here titled, "New to Spreadcoin? Learn about it here"
3. Create extremely useful about, FAQ, and guides for newbies in that forum.
Yes, this would be useful. Don't forget that there is a wiki which can be used as a source of information for FAQ and guides: https://github.com/spreadcoin-project/SpreadCoin-Wiki/wiki
4. Close the self-moderated thread if Mr. Spread doesn't want it.
Lets close it and use original thread. Voting is for this (I also voted to continue original thread).
5. Only use the bitcointalk thread to post updates and guide new people to here.
Yes, guide people here, but I think there is nothing wrong to continue using original thread and answer questions there.
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8)
I think I finally found myself a DEV that I like.... ;D
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Thanks for the response Mr. Spread.
George, do you want to post on coinmarketcap's thread again?
Also George, are you open to a couple suggestions to make this forum a little more user friendly?
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Thanks for the response Mr. Spread.
George, do you want to post on coinmarketcap's thread again?
Also George, are you open to a couple suggestions to make this forum a little more user friendly?
Yes, always.
Best thing is if you start a thread in the Meta-Forum.