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georgem

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Re: Masternodes Testing
« Reply #450 on: January 29, 2015, 05:48:47 pm »
So if we have max 1000 MNs and every minute some MN gets its payment,
this means that in 1000 minutes on average all MNs recieve a payment.

But spreadcoin has on average 1440 blocks a day,

so here's an idea?

Why not make the max amount of MNs be 1440?

This way every MN would on average recieve 1 payment every day.

Sounds good?
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« Reply #451 on: January 29, 2015, 06:20:54 pm »
So if we have max 1000 MNs and every minute some MN gets its payment,
this means that in 1000 minutes on average all MNs recieve a payment.

But spreadcoin has on average 1440 blocks a day,

so here's an idea?

Why not make the max amount of MNs be 1440?

This way every MN would on average recieve 1 payment every day.

Sounds good?
Actually I wanted to set it to something like 1500 but 1440 looks more reasonable now.
Block are generated each minute, masternode gets payment each day, easy to remember.

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« Reply #452 on: January 29, 2015, 06:43:27 pm »
So we now see it's working. What about the portion received - 1.97 will be received by any MN neverthless how many SPR are put into the MN ? What is the deal here ? How to calculate the portion received by MN with 100SPR and one with 1000SPR ?

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Re: Masternodes Testing
« Reply #453 on: January 29, 2015, 06:43:59 pm »
I got a few to spare MemoryShock - mined two blocks last night, give me your address and I can top you off :-)

Appreciate the offer; I went to bed after that post...; )

Already have them and MN created...though I see payments testing has already started!

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« Reply #454 on: January 29, 2015, 06:56:39 pm »
1440 is still not a big number as it's so easy to run many MNs on a single box. I think the voting system should favour MNs running on discrete machines.

2000 Dark Masternodes is a very robust network. 1440 Spread MNs running on a just a few hundred boxes is a lot less resilient, especially if there are a lot of crappy Windows boxes on domestic connections among them.

There needs to be an incentive to run fewer MNs per box, and competition to provide better and more reliable service.

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« Reply #455 on: January 29, 2015, 06:57:49 pm »
So we now see it's working. What about the portion received - 1.97 will be received by any MN neverthless how many SPR are put into the MN ? What is the deal here ? How to calculate the portion received by MN with 100SPR and one with 1000SPR ?

You get the same payment regardless of how many SPR is in your MN.

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« Reply #456 on: January 29, 2015, 07:06:45 pm »
So we now see it's working. What about the portion received - 1.97 will be received by any MN neverthless how many SPR are put into the MN ? What is the deal here ? How to calculate the portion received by MN with 100SPR and one with 1000SPR ?

You get the same payment regardless of how many SPR is in your MN.

Then what is the point to create MN with 5000 SPR but not with 100SPR ? Can you give an explanation please.

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« Reply #457 on: January 29, 2015, 07:08:27 pm »
So we now see it's working. What about the portion received - 1.97 will be received by any MN neverthless how many SPR are put into the MN ? What is the deal here ? How to calculate the portion received by MN with 100SPR and one with 1000SPR ?

You get the same payment regardless of how many SPR is in your MN.

Then what is the point to create MN with 5000 SPR but not with 100SPR ? Can you give an explanation please.

Because your 100 SPR masternode is going to get kicked off the network and stop earning you money a lot faster than one with a higher collateral input, as competition drives up the minimum cost.

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Re: Masternodes Testing
« Reply #458 on: January 29, 2015, 07:31:44 pm »
So we now see it's working. What about the portion received - 1.97 will be received by any MN neverthless how many SPR are put into the MN ? What is the deal here ? How to calculate the portion received by MN with 100SPR and one with 1000SPR ?

You get the same payment regardless of how many SPR is in your MN.

Then what is the point to create MN with 5000 SPR but not with 100SPR ? Can you give an explanation please.

It's all about creating incentives.

People will know that they can easily secure their MN by puting a lot of SPR in it.
But they also know that they can split this large MN into many smaller but riskier MNs and make a higher profit.
That's what will create a constant competition.
It is good that the thing that is risky is also the most profitable.
That's good market rules, because it rewards risktakers, not the lazy have-it-alls.
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Re: Masternodes Testing
« Reply #459 on: January 29, 2015, 07:36:32 pm »
1440 is still not a big number as it's so easy to run many MNs on a single box. I think the voting system should favour MNs running on discrete machines.

2000 Dark Masternodes is a very robust network. 1440 Spread MNs running on a just a few hundred boxes is a lot less resilient, especially if there are a lot of crappy Windows boxes on domestic connections among them.

There needs to be an incentive to run fewer MNs per box, and competition to provide better and more reliable service.

1440 is a very nice base. A logical conclusion that makes sense.

Maybe we can add to this, by changing it to double that (2880) sometime in the far future? Say in 4 years? (or 2102400 blocks)

But something tells me that 1440 are enough for all time, given that additional incentives (not yet clear) will make those masternodes strive to become better and better.

There needs to be an incentive to run fewer MNs per box, and competition to provide better and more reliable service.

Obviously masternodes run on CPU based machines, so could it be possible to force (?) every masternode to mine with 1 CPU thread, or something like that?
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« Reply #460 on: January 29, 2015, 07:53:17 pm »
I might be doing something wrong, but I got a "control" box for a MN that has an address that it's not mine and also the amount is unknown...
Here is a screeny:

So what am I missing? Any ideas what this address and amount are?
Also I just got a block that is 4.66... I guess this is the block reward minus 30% for the MN?
So after MN this gets implemented the mining rewards will go down to 4.25... well, we'll see how it will work out...

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Re: Masternodes Testing
« Reply #461 on: January 29, 2015, 08:05:39 pm »
Maybe a change address, it looks like you split up coins to multiple addresses. Check to see if it's there in Coin Control

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« Reply #462 on: January 29, 2015, 08:07:46 pm »
I might be doing something wrong, but I got a "control" box for a MN that has an address that it's not mine and also the amount is unknown...
I think this is the change that was created when you sent 101.30 coins to yourself.

The 5 consequent transactions "Payment to yourself" were for 101.1 101.2 101.3 101.4 101.5 (older to newer)
The last three are to the Address t8. The first two were to Address RD and Address JK.
How the heck this address (....DDVuA) showed up and the 218.70 amount...
Sorry, it might be obvious for most of you, but it is confusing to me. You need different testers after all, right? :)

What is coin control and how do I use/view/whatever it?



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Re: Masternodes Testing
« Reply #463 on: January 29, 2015, 08:08:41 pm »
Hi, a noob question, what will happen with these test SPR coins that i'm mining, will they be converted to real SPR with the a value or r these coins just for testing purpose only and will be worthless? thx

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Re: Masternodes Testing
« Reply #464 on: January 29, 2015, 08:12:28 pm »
I might be doing something wrong, but I got a "control" box for a MN that has an address that it's not mine and also the amount is unknown...
I think this is the change that was created when you sent 101.30 coins to yourself.

The 5 consequent transactions "Payment to yourself" were for 101.1 101.2 101.3 101.4 101.5 (older to newer)
The last three are to the Address t8. The first two were to Address RD and Address JK.
How the heck this address (....DDVuA) showed up and the 218.70 amount...
Sorry, it might be obvious for most of you, but it is confusing to me. You need different testers after all, right? :)

What is coin control and how do I use/view/whatever it?

Settings > Options > Display > Select the "Display coin control options" box

Now go to Send tab and select "Inputs" button, select "List Mode" and check list of addresses